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Post by Subu'atai on May 26, 2008 12:33:36 GMT 3
Apparently the Japanese guy played a geek on his next film lol
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 27, 2008 20:08:55 GMT 3
This movie sucks big time for historical accuracy. I can say this is the Mongol version of 300 There are just too many inaccurasies that I can't even list them.
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Post by Temüjin on May 27, 2008 21:26:48 GMT 3
yeah, Mongol archers use the meditteranean draw instead of the thumb-draw, this was the first thing i saw in the trailer and it completely spoiled the whole movie for me before i saw it...
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Post by Azadan Januspar on May 27, 2008 21:37:06 GMT 3
What are all these inaccuracies about?...why didn't they make something more realistic regarding this opportunity.
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Post by Subu'atai on May 28, 2008 12:21:51 GMT 3
It seems plausible that an army of nomadic horsemen would have been impossible to coordinate with their non-Altaic actors. In fact, they didn't even know how to shoot let alone ride and shoot!
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 28, 2008 18:55:34 GMT 3
What are all these inaccuracies about?...why didn't they make something more realistic regarding this opportunity. They have twisted the actual story, adding non-existing fiction. For example, according to the movie, Temüjin was abducted by the Tanguts and sold as a slave, stayed in their capital for a long time, than his wife Börte sold herself to a slave merchant, went to Ningxia and rescued Temüjin. This is just nonsense. There are also many other inaccurasies in the story line; some big events and characters are never mentioned, or blended into others. The final battle scene also has a very inaccurate tactic which was never used by steppe peoples. There are also other technical details like those mentioned by Temüjin Yabghu (I hadn't noticed that indeed).
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Post by Temüjin on May 28, 2008 21:45:24 GMT 3
and there was too much emphasize given to Jamukha in my opinion. iirc, Toghrul wasn't even mentioned, neither the other major wifes of Temüjin nor his closest followers & lieutenants.
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Post by Subu'atai on May 29, 2008 15:22:05 GMT 3
I've also heard that in the movie -> Temujin betrayed Jamukha Another insulting inaccuracy, need to call these Ruskies back to Kalka river!
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Post by snafu on Jun 16, 2008 15:25:09 GMT 3
The movie just opened in here the US, and it's getting very good reviews. But I was disappointed with it. The story of Temujin is interesting enough on it's own. It doesn't need to be changed. But they mangled it in this movie and ended up with a story that was sort of boring and sometimes even silly. And the costumes were terrible. I don't think the director did any research at all into what steppe people wore 800 years ago. Most of the characters looked more like modern Kazakhs than ancient Mongols. I was hoping for something much more authentic.
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Jun 16, 2008 21:24:59 GMT 3
Yeah, those curved swords which resemble cheap Arabic tradition.
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Post by Subu'atai on Jun 16, 2008 22:08:49 GMT 3
Can someone explain the friendly fire scene on the last battle as well - like wtf?!
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 17, 2008 3:06:32 GMT 3
That last battle scene is entire fiction, there is nothing accurate in it ;D ;D
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Post by snafu on Jun 17, 2008 15:23:09 GMT 3
What was the name of the Genghis Khan movie the Mongolians made? I think it was back in the 90's. It looked very extravagant and expensive. It also looked a lot better than this movie.
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Post by sarmat on Jun 22, 2008 0:36:32 GMT 3
Although the movie is definitely not perfect and filled with historical inconsitenties and innacurracies, I still think it has a positive role in promoting the interest to the steppe and Mongolian history in the world. Despite, besides the all idiotic scenes in the movie, the main idea is still that Genghiz Khan was a good guy. And this is the challenge to the view of the general public that he was just a brutal killer of innocents and nothing more. As long as people became interested in the story of Genghis Khan, they can discover that his real life was actually much more interesting and meaningful than it is represented in the movie.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 22, 2008 1:04:16 GMT 3
Well, the long Inner Mongolian tv serials were still much better in that aspect ;D
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