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Post by nisse on Jun 1, 2007 16:52:33 GMT 3
I wonder who the kimeks are
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Post by balamir on Jun 1, 2007 16:54:24 GMT 3
Kimeks were a Turkic people,they are also ancestors of Cuman--Kipchaks.
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Post by nisse on Jun 1, 2007 18:32:58 GMT 3
aha, ok thanks for the info
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Post by buzkan on Aug 6, 2007 12:15:56 GMT 3
extinct?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 7, 2007 1:06:36 GMT 3
They became the Qïpchaqs, who are now living under different names in Russia, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan.
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Post by buzkan on Aug 7, 2007 10:40:57 GMT 3
I see. Why did their name change?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 7, 2007 21:15:24 GMT 3
After the Mongol Invasions, they ceased to exist as a separate and independent people. Most of them became called as Tatars (because they were ruled by the Mongols who were referred as Tatars) whereas some of them later migrated eastwards, there joining the various Turko-Mongol tribes and forming the Qazaqs (Kazakh).
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Aug 22, 2007 15:55:07 GMT 3
By my information Kimeks first created the Khaganate. The kingdom consisted from two nations Kimeks and Kipchaks. Later Kipchaks overthrew them and took the major possitions in society. By the time Mongols occupied Central Asia. Kipchaks and Kimeks were at the state of war.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 30, 2007 21:33:40 GMT 3
Are you sure there was a separate people with the name Kimek was existing at the time of the Mongol Invasions?
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Post by pantigin on Feb 1, 2008 11:56:13 GMT 3
I think KIMEKS mainly related to Bulgar turks dwelt around river Edel at the time, and later became crimean tatars, pechenegs, gagauz and slavizied bulgars and Kypchaks were the major branch of turkic people who became later Kyrgyz,kazak,tatar, bashkirt and karakalpakh.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 2, 2008 18:43:51 GMT 3
I don't think the Kimeks were that mainly related with the Bulghar Turks, because they were living in the central Qazaq steppe until the Qypchaqs broke away from them in the late 10th century.
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