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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Aug 7, 2006 12:48:28 GMT 3
According to Sima Qian, the Xiongnu were descendants of Chunwei, possibly a son of Jie. With this info can we say that Xiongnus were originally Chinese?
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Post by Bor Chono on Aug 7, 2006 16:00:17 GMT 3
Huns have nothing to do with Chinese when U speak about their origin. >:(There is mad Chinese old tales about origin of surrounding countries/ppl -it says they all from China & China is in middle(=China is always been called Middle Kingdom). Chinese have black eyes & hair, Huns had (mix of) colored eyes & there even were blonde ppl. If China & Steppe nomads had one origin they must speak almost same -language must be similar. But it doesn`t. Ofcourse there is records that Steppe nomads ruled little Chinese kingdoms & mixed with them.  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 7, 2006 21:09:15 GMT 3
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Aug 7, 2006 22:21:49 GMT 3
I am sorry Tigin I forgot it... Can you merge them? Btw, Bor Chono, I also don't believe it...  |
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Post by tengrikut on Aug 8, 2006 0:58:30 GMT 3
there are lots of chineese teories like that. they are trying to keep near central asian states i think.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 9, 2006 0:24:16 GMT 3
We can continue from that thread |
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Post by Atabeg on Aug 9, 2006 19:01:04 GMT 3
look at my avatar it shanyu from te cartoon mulan hes the leader of the xiongnu did they look anything like that I thinks so
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Post by Temüjin on Aug 9, 2006 20:16:42 GMT 3
i thought Mulan fought the RuRuan, not the XiongNu?
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Post by Atabeg on Aug 9, 2006 23:03:43 GMT 3
no the xiongnu aka hon or huns the leader of xiongni is calles chanyu in chinese the villian is calles shanyu see the similarity
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 10, 2006 17:06:31 GMT 3
In real history, Hua Mulan fought against the Rouran because she lived during the Northern Wei Dynasty. But in the cartoons, she was fighting against the Xiongnu of the Han Dynasty Period. But that movie had too many historical inaccurasies  |
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Aug 10, 2006 20:28:54 GMT 3
Atabeg I have difficulty to understand your english, can you write more and more clearly?  ? |
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Post by Atabeg on Aug 11, 2006 17:34:23 GMT 3
ahaha it's not that mu english is crappy It dusn't mather if I right in english, turkish dutch or any other language people have a hard time understanding it ;D
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Aug 11, 2006 19:12:52 GMT 3
I think you use informal English, and some slang. That's why I can't get it...
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Post by Atabeg on Aug 11, 2006 19:58:17 GMT 3
well thats a pretty good theory you have there
well I will try to pay more attention from now on
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Post by temur on Jan 10, 2007 16:57:30 GMT 3
According to Chinese history, Chinese Han dynasty Is the most confident empire of Chinese people, and till recently Chinese people call themselves Han people. Han wu Di( war emperor) unlike his predecessors who send Chinese women to Huns for their promise of peace. War Emperor forsake Great Wall and decide to attack and solve Huns completely. During his reign (25 years) half population died as war against Huns, and most of them died as a result of heavy military tax and famine. He once told his Generals that Huns can across Gobe desert, so I can do it too. And all of you don,t expect I can give you enough logistic support when your legions are far away from me, When you soldier feel hugry ok you can eat Huns flesh, if you feel thirsty ok drink Huns blood. In the end, Han empire gave Huns deadly attack, and some Huns tribes moved to Europe. In real history, Hua Mulan fought against the Rouran because she lived during the Northern Wei Dynasty. But in the cartoons, she was fighting against the Xiongnu of the Han Dynasty Period. But that movie had too many historical inaccurasies |
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