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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 27, 2006 14:37:26 GMT 3
I believe that Tengri doesn`t allow drinking -same with Allah-right? I prefere Tengri cuz U can worship him only once a year & U are free. But in Allah U need to build temples & worship Allah every week. (maybe I`m too lazy ;D).
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Post by aykurt on Dec 27, 2006 18:38:24 GMT 3
Tengri seems a more universal name for the creator, wheras Allah is restricted to Islam.
Similar to word God, in that the christian name for God is Yahweh or Jehovah, but God has a pre chrisitan origin. If you were to use Yahweh or Jehovah you would be restricting yourself to christianity or Judaism wheras god can be used more universally.
For that reason i choose Tengri. Tengri can mean what you want it to mean in any given environment. Its becomes more personal if you do not follow dogmatic Islam.
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Post by kokturk on Dec 27, 2006 21:57:33 GMT 3
But in Allah U need to build temples & worship Allah every week. (maybe I`m too lazy ;D). 5 times a day, plus fasting a month in a year. Also, if you are rich enough, you have to give the 2,5% of your annual profit to poors. You have to go to Maccah as a pilgrim if you have the chance, at least once in your lifespan. Temples are not that necessary. Taking alcohol, pork, all the animals killed without calling the name Allâh are banned. In fact, there are a lot of things you must and must not do. Islâm is a very hard religion.
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Post by Atabeg on Dec 27, 2006 23:19:03 GMT 3
oh yeah Important for mongolians and other Ca ers Horse is forbidden 2
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 28, 2006 0:59:18 GMT 3
oh yeah Important for mongolians and other Ca ers Horse is forbidden 2 In old Finnish tradition killing Horse is almost same as killing man. One example is Finnish Ultra-Nationalist member of parliament, Elias Simojoki. He died in Winter War, because his horse was injured and he went alone to frozen lake for getting his horse to safe and then he died from russians fire.
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 28, 2006 14:55:02 GMT 3
Khokh Tenger or Allah???
-This question itself has extra question : Many gods(=Tengries) & spirits or one god(=Allah)? ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 28, 2006 14:58:17 GMT 3
oh yeah Important for mongolians and other Ca ers Horse is forbidden 2 For Mongols killing a horse is not so bad compare to killing a dog. Also every Mongol is afraid of dog year(this year is dog year!) cuz many ppl might die. (By Mongol way human spirit is followed or guided by a dog).
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Post by kokturk on Jan 1, 2007 0:47:08 GMT 3
oh yeah Important for mongolians and other Ca ers Horse is forbidden 2 Horse is not forbidden in The Quran, but Prophet Mohammed banned it, because they were using horses at wars. We do not use horses at wars now, so eating horse is not forbidden.
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Post by balamir on Jan 1, 2007 10:10:00 GMT 3
Hz.Muhammed said a round eyed nation will come Ýslam with their riding skills =).
We always used horses at main of army,but today Horses can't be used in wars because of modern weapons right?
And I'm first hearing this from you,I don't know for Arabs but Turks never abandoned their Horses. Nearly all Turk Empires after Ýslam used cavalries mainly army,may be they don't know this?I don't think so...
I don't think our prophet banned Horses,or He must be only banned it for Arabs(But arabs also used cavalry).
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Post by Bor Chono on Jan 1, 2007 10:50:59 GMT 3
oh yeah Important for mongolians and other Ca ers Horse is forbidden 2 Horse is not forbidden in The Quran, but Prophet Mohammed banned it, because they were using horses at wars. We do not use horses at wars now, so eating horse is not forbidden. Actually for Mongols huge number of horses was the weapon equal to atomic bomb against massive foot army. U just direct a huge group of horse to stamp the enemy.(=quite effective to create a chaos among enemy lines. Then Ofcourse Canons became a big trouble! )
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Post by balamir on Jan 1, 2007 11:43:40 GMT 3
Horse is not forbidden in The Quran, but Prophet Mohammed banned it, because they were using horses at wars. We do not use horses at wars now, so eating horse is not forbidden. Actually for Mongols huge number of horses was the weapon equal to atomic bomb against massive foot army. U just direct a huge group of horse to stamp the enemy.(=quite effective to create a chaos among enemy lines. Then Ofcourse Canons became a big trouble! ) For east Turks also!Ever heard Khazan Turks against russian rifles&cannons?Shock cavalries are usefull. ;D
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Post by kokturk on Jan 2, 2007 14:22:14 GMT 3
Hz.Muhammed said a round eyed nation will come Ýslam with their riding skills =). We always used horses at main of army,but today Horses can't be used in wars because of modern weapons right? And I'm first hearing this from you,I don't know for Arabs but Turks never abandoned their Horses. Nearly all Turk Empires after Ýslam used cavalries mainly army,may be they don't know this?I don't think so... I don't think our prophet banned Horses,or He must be only banned it for Arabs(But arabs also used cavalry). Of course horse is not banned. Eating horse is banned.
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Post by balamir on Jan 2, 2007 14:35:44 GMT 3
Argh...Ok =)!
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Post by Bor Chono on Jan 3, 2007 13:55:15 GMT 3
For Mongols there are 5 main livestock & meat. The horse meat is considered the best of all. But it is not expensive.(=strange isn`t it?)
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Post by balamir on Jan 3, 2007 14:31:48 GMT 3
Ýn Turkey,we never eat Horse Meat.
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