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Post by Bor Chono on Oct 23, 2006 17:34:54 GMT 3
Oh...boy! (btw! why boy? ;D) I like this pic! ;D ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Oct 23, 2006 17:38:15 GMT 3
here is my umay. she is my lover. there was a small river back of her but it doesn't seen Tengrikut I guess that was her not the best photo! Btw what does "Umay" mean!? U can`t ask a Mongol girl "-Will U be my Umay?" cuz "Umay" sounds like "Umai"=female thingy ;D
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Post by aca on Oct 23, 2006 19:46:28 GMT 3
Umay was the name of an ancient Turko-Mongol goddess. Her name was mentioned several times in Orkhon Inscriptions. According to ancient Turko-Mongol religion (but in a modern interpretation of Altay people) she was/is a protector of young children (up to 3 months), or - some kind of "goddess of fertility". I'll see what I can find on this subject.
Indeed, her name means "female thingy" as you put it. ;D (modern turkish word is "am")
"-ay" is usualu added to the end of female names (like among the Altay people)
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Post by aca on Oct 23, 2006 20:03:23 GMT 3
Umai UMAI. The name Umai (Umay) first appears in the Old Turkic inscriptions of Mongolia (mid-eighth century CE), where it is borne by a feminine deity of unspecified but benevolent functions. There is a gap of more than a thousand years in the relevant documentation, but belief in Umai has remained alive among some of the Turkic peoples of the Altai region, and also among the Tunguz of northeastern Siberia. Here Umai may be male or female, or even androgynous. In one set of beliefs, where Umai is personified, the role of the spirit resembles that of a guardian angel of small children. Illness may signal Umai's abandonment of her ward, and a shaman's intervention may be sought to effect her return. Often Umai is thought of as the keeper of the soul of unborn children. Among the Turkic Sagays, Shors, and Beltirs, umai is the term applied to the soul of a child from the moment of his birth until about the time when he walks freely and speaks with some fluency. On occasion, the help of a shaman may be requested for the sinister purpose of transferring the umai of a healthy infant either into the body of one seriously ill, or into the womb of a woman thought to be sterile. As a result of such an abduction, referred to as Umay (or Imay) tutargha, the donor will die. The term umai is applied also to the umbilical cord, which, after being cut, is placed in a small leather pouch and attached to the child's cradle. The inconsistencies and contradictions shown by nineteenth- and twentieth-century beliefs and practices suggest that these are but surviving fragments of an ancient cult no longer definable. Since umai is the standard Mongol word for "womb" or "placenta," it can safely be assumed that, although the name Umai first appears in a Turkic text and the cult of Umai is strongest among Turkic peoples, originally the deity was part of a Mongol religious system. I took this quotation from here: www.bookrags.com/Umay
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Post by aca on Oct 23, 2006 20:12:20 GMT 3
Oh, I always thought that Sakha girls are the most beautiful among all Turkic girls, but after I saw pictures posted by Bawirsaq I'm convinced that they are
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Post by Atabeg on Oct 23, 2006 23:36:34 GMT 3
Maria Gushina: Tegrid**n(like God d**n) wow shes realy beatifull
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Nov 22, 2006 0:55:16 GMT 3
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Post by Saran on Nov 22, 2006 5:11:09 GMT 3
Miss Kazakstan 2006 ... October 21, 2006 Wow! This girl is really beautiful, the most important thing is that she looks Kazakh . I dun understand blonde Kazaks ;D
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Post by Saran on Nov 22, 2006 5:15:54 GMT 3
One of my favorite Turkic models - Sakha girl Maria Gushina: ... She's gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous! I never knew that Yakuts could be beautiful like this. One of the well-known pop singers in Mongolia is mix of Yakut & Mongolian and she's ugly
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Post by kokturk on Nov 22, 2006 15:56:47 GMT 3
Wow! This girl is really beautiful, the most important thing is that she looks Kazakh . I dun understand blonde Kazaks ;D Qazaqs mostly originate from the Kypchak people. And the Russians called them "Polovets", meaning blond. I mean, blonde Qazaq is very normal.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 22, 2006 17:52:27 GMT 3
Wow! This girl is really beautiful, the most important thing is that she looks Kazakh . I dun understand blonde Kazaks ;D Qazaqs mostly originate from the Kypchak people. And the Russians called them "Polovets", meaning blond. I mean, blonde Qazaq is very normal. That is true. BTW: Sometimes also Cumans were called to Povlovtshes... I wonder did that also mean Kypchak...
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Post by Atabeg on Nov 22, 2006 21:11:14 GMT 3
the old miss kazakh looks way prettier to me
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Nov 23, 2006 10:31:36 GMT 3
Qazaqs mostly originate from the Kypchak people. And the Russians called them "Polovets", meaning blond. No, Polovets does not traslate as blond. There's a theory that the name originates from the word polova which is Russian for "chaff, husks" - seed casings harvested with wheat. The blond or rather wheaty-color comes from this theory. There's also a theory that Polovtsy originated from the Russian word pole ("field"). Russians used to call the Qipchaq steppe - "Wild field" (Dikoe pole). Most likely Qipchaqs were no blond people. Here's how they are portrayed by the Hungarians who saw Qipchaq settlers of Kotan khan in Hungary: Hungarian King Laszlo fights Cumans Legend of Saint Ladislas (from the Anjou Legendarium)
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Nov 23, 2006 10:42:52 GMT 3
I mean, blonde Qazaq is very normal. No, bro, blonde Qazaq is not common at all. The absolute majority of the Qazaqs are dark-haired.
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Post by Saran on Nov 23, 2006 10:59:44 GMT 3
I mean, blonde Qazaq is very normal. No, bro, blonde Qazaq is not common at all. The absolute majority of the Qazaqs are dark-haired. That's what I thought . We have some 30000-40000 Kazakhs here in Mongolia and I never saw a blonde Kazak when I travelled in Bayan-Ulgii (It's the province where our Kazakhs live) for 2 weeks. What I meant by "Blonde Kazak" above was the Russians living in Kazakh
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