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Post by terekeme on May 13, 2010 9:56:55 GMT 3
Iam a Terekeme from Türkiye-Kars (north-east part of türkiye).We had came from somewhere in Georgia to todays Kars when it is 1915-17 war against Rus and Armenians... We Terekemes knew ourselves as a terekeme but not as a karapapak.Even I dont know who karapapak is.I am sure we are same with other terekemes sended to central asia by Rus but not sure with karapapaks living in azerbaycan.Problem is that we terekemes living in türkiye use completely same turkish with terekemes of sended from caucasia to central asia, but very different with karapapaks living in azerbaycan.If terekeme and karapapak are same, then how we speak different from ones very close to türkiye but completely same with ones very far away from türkiye?Really I can detect at once the single terekeme in 1000 azerbaycanian, but I can not if he/she is in a 1000 terekeme from central asia.So There is a big problem and probobly we are not karapapak.. Funny. ;D Terekeme - Karapapaks are a branch of Azerbaijani Turks. There are more then 300 thousound ethnic Azerbaijani Turks in Georgia. And you say that you came from somewhere in Georgia and your Terekeme... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeris_in_Georgia_%28country%29According to the 2002 census, there are 284,761 ethnic Azeris living in Georgia.[1] They comprise 6.5% of Georgia's population (being its largest ethnic minority), inhabiting mostly rural parts of the country, mostly in Kvemo Kartli, Kakheti, Shida Kartli and Mtskheta-Mtianeti. There is a large Azeri community in the capital city of Tbilisi and smaller communities in other regions.[2] Tragycomic.Peoples known as Azeri are not Türk so their name is Azeri.But the Terekeme are Türk.Everyone know this, even your reference (wikipedia) is say this.Learn and accept, the Azeri is not from east of Hazar see!hazar-hazari-azeri, hazar-hazari-azeri, ... repeat this to be able to discover (word discover can not be used for a very well known fact but for you this word is a gift).Azeris are part of Persians, but have a change (especially in language) in time by the Terekeme.Story is this.Dont forget to read the iran page of wiki (which is your reference).And think why there is no sunni or sunnilike life in Azeries past, but there is Jewishness, this shows clearly that Azeries are not part of the family..In your wiki there is no an explanation that why Azeri peoples in Azerbaycan try to insult Terekemes saying "Turk".Why do Azeries call Turkmens living in Iran as Terekeme?.. Yes really funny, because there is no an ethnic name as Azeri in history older than the name Terekeme.Trying to be relative of Terekeme will not make the Azeri Turk!Relatives of Azeries are Iranians and Kurds, there are many cognizant from the science ANATOMY.You are cognizant of FUNNY
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Post by atabek on May 15, 2010 23:12:23 GMT 3
So your Terekeme? Its not Azeri its Azerbaijani Turk first of all. Whatever you say, Terekemes are part of Azerbaijani ethnicity, its not separate ethnic in first place. Azerbaijani Turks are related to Iranians and Kurds? That is the most weird thing I have ever heard. Let me show you something. This is Azerbaijani This is Kurd
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Post by atabek on May 15, 2010 23:18:17 GMT 3
And let me show you something. Old map of Europe from 1900. Look how they refer to Azerbaijani Turks and what was our name before 1918. We were called as Caucasian Tatars. There is no other country, including Turkey that have as much Turkic values as Azerbaijan. You can even observe it in flags and other things.
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Post by atabek on May 15, 2010 23:20:15 GMT 3
Postcard from 1900. Showing Baku. Look how they refer to Azerbaijani Turks. Tatare.
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Post by ancalimon on May 15, 2010 23:36:37 GMT 3
Lately I keep seeing people who claim they are from Baku and that all of Azeri are either Kurds or Persians. These people claim "Mongol Turks" forced Azeri's to speak a Turkic language, and they initially spoke Persian.
Is this some kind of espionage by enemies of Turks? As it sounds really ridiculous to me.
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Post by atabek on May 15, 2010 23:39:14 GMT 3
From Baku? ;D
Persians claim such things because of their inferiority complex issues.
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Post by atabek on May 16, 2010 0:05:07 GMT 3
Ihsan, why did you cut out my post?
If hes Terekeme, let him show it so.
Indi öz dilimizdə danış görüm. Translation: Now talk in our language.
Azerbaijani Terekeme Turks don't talk like Anatolian Turks or Istanbul dialect. So lets see you.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 16, 2010 0:30:47 GMT 3
Didn't you read the warning I sent to you via private message? No non-English posts without translations are allowed in this forum! Our host does not allow that!
And some of your posts were against our rulers, so I had to edit it.
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Post by atabek on May 16, 2010 0:32:17 GMT 3
From Azerbaijan Grey-Wolves organization are only active in Azerbaijan. It really pisses me off when someone behind his PC come and challenge our national idenity!
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 16, 2010 0:33:32 GMT 3
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Post by atabek on May 16, 2010 0:38:10 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 16, 2010 0:43:58 GMT 3
Do you have problems with understanding what I wrote above? Members cannot post offensive posts against other members!
Dude, my warnings are not about the problem you discuss, but the way you disregard our rules despite my numerious warnings. Check your inbox. If you'll break the rules again, I will have to ban you. I privately warned you once and publicly twice.
Btw, there are singers in Turkey who sing about Turan, such as Kaya Kuzucu and several other singers close to MHP.
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Post by atabek on May 16, 2010 0:47:20 GMT 3
Ok.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 16, 2010 1:02:14 GMT 3
Ok, thank you for your understanding.
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Post by terekeme on May 18, 2010 23:19:32 GMT 3
Thank you very much, you give me opportunity and I accept my opportunist behavior at thip point..But let us remember that oportunism and lying are not same... Learn 1) If you write the word "ethnic" then you accept the separation.If you havent any distinguishment in your mind you wouldnt use word "part" in your "part of Azerbaycan ethnicity"!You know an ethnic name(Terekeme) and use it, but afterwards you are able to claim that there is no a seperate ethnicity like Terekeme (how a talent). Learn 2) Georgians wear like picture you send too.And Bosnians wear fes, because they are Turk??? Learn 3) Fur-cap doesnt belong to Azeries. Question-1)Why isnt there anyone other than you all around the world claiming that Terekeme and Azeri are same?Really your problem is big. Question-2)You Azeries can not talk seperatly Terekeme-Azeri and Türk-Azeri subjects, you everytime talk these together.But you have to let them out and answer this very easy question ; are you from east of Hazar see or west of Hazar see?Say us where are you from, this will be enough. Question-3)You of course know who are your neighbours(Kurds, Pers', Armenians, Old Anatolians, Georgians).Can you proof at least one of them is Turk?These facts will bring some other facts.. Question-4) Will you proof name Azeri is older then name Terekeme?You Azeries dont like this question but I have to ask:)Your history goes back mostly 200 years under seperate Azeri ethnic name!You can go back more than 200 years, but NOT under seperate Azeri ethnic name.This very simple question may be new to you, but for excamle Russian history dont know you.. Question 5)Why you accept that Terekemes coming from north of see Hazar when you talk with a Georgian?Why dont you claim against Georgians, against Armenians, against Russians, against Ahýska that Terekemes are one of essential folk of Caucasia? Question 6) Why dont/didnt Turkmens, Kazaks, Rusians and others use the name Hazarian?But only you?? Final bomb : You are needy of Turks are Anatolian, but they say they are certral asian!! So your Terekeme? Its not Azeri its Azerbaijani Turk first of all. Whatever you say, Terekemes are part of Azerbaijani ethnicity, its not separate ethnic in first place. Azerbaijani Turks are related to Iranians and Kurds? That is the most weird thing I have ever heard. Let me show you something. This is Azerbaijani This is Kurd
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