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Post by ALTAR on Jan 26, 2009 10:49:43 GMT 3
Nice share, thank you Ihsan.
Uighurs had an important role in the Steppe and Turk History.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 27, 2009 2:41:17 GMT 3
Thanx my dear Yabghu! You are very right indeed. In fact, the Uyghurs were one of the most important breaking points in Steppe and Turkic history. Yes, Drompp uses primary Chinese sources. Indeed, Mackerras is considered as the greatest expert on the history of the Orkhon Uyghur Qaghanate. Funny thing is that his mentioned book is his only real contribution in our field; the rest of his studies are based mostly on Chinese history itself ;D But as Saadettin Gömeç told me a short time ago, the publishment of that book is on itself a big contribution to our field, so there is no need for him to make others ;D Btw, what I like about Drompp is that he has a very interesting point of view, an ability to get important details in small amounts of unimportant-seeming infos found in historical sources (mainly Chinese, in this case). I found his article titled "The Breaking of the Orkhon Tradition" truely fascinating.
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Post by boleslawi on Feb 6, 2009 6:57:37 GMT 3
Hello Ihsan, you can pay 9.99 dollars for a monthly plan in Questia to read this book, along with other great titles.
I am trying to find that book, do not know where for certain. It must be fine for Colin Mackerras is the translator of the section on Uyghurs in Xin Tangshu. However, as Warhead/Borijin in China history forum, the best source that deal with the relations between Tang and Uyghurs is in the Chinese book: Wang XiaoFu Tang, dashi, tubo, zhengzhi guanxi shi"(Tang, Arab and Tibetan political relation history). In which I think there are good sections on how Tang and the Turk Empires dealt with each other. The book is available in pdf file if you know how to read modern Chinese. I myself have to plough the first few pages yet I was blown away just by the topic. Anyhow, according to Yun, it is excellent, the book of Drompp. I have looked at the back and see that plenty of sources on Chinese memorials submitted on the account of the Uyghurs. Most of them are drawn from Tang Huiyao and sources like that. So it must be wonderful to skim through it.
Anyone know if the Uyghurs used Heavy Cavalry like those Cataphracts?
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Post by boleslawi on Feb 6, 2009 7:01:09 GMT 3
Greetings Boleslawi, welcome aboard Hello Ihsan, you can pay 9.99 dollars for a monthly plan in Questia to read this book, along with other great titles. I am trying to find that book, do not know where for certain. It must be fine for Colin Mackerras is the translator of the section on Uyghurs in Xin Tangshu. However, as Warhead/Borijin in China history forum, the best source that deal with the relations between Tang and Uyghurs is in the Chinese book: Wang XiaoFu Tang, dashi, tubo, zhengzhi guanxi shi"(Tang, Arab and Tibetan political relation history). In which I think there are good sections on how Tang and the Turk Empires dealt with each other. The book is available in pdf file if you know how to read modern Chinese. I myself have to plough the first few pages yet I was blown away just by the topic. Anyhow, according to Yun, it is excellent, the book of Drompp. I have looked at the back and see that plenty of sources on Chinese memorials submitted on the account of the Uyghurs. Most of them are drawn from Tang Huiyao and sources like that. So it must be wonderful to skim through it. It is also a great authority on the relationship between Tang, Uyghurs and the Kirghiz. Anyone know if the Uyghurs used Heavy Cavalry like those Cataphracts?
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Post by tadamson on Feb 6, 2009 19:22:34 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 7, 2009 1:20:17 GMT 3
Indeed, it's quite expensive Yes, the Uyghurs did have armored soldiers, as I have seen in Chinese paintings of that period.
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