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Post by Azadan Januspar on Jan 12, 2013 19:57:33 GMT 3
The Iranian equivalent to griffin is called 'paskunch' in middle Persian akin to Greek gryphon and Sumerian, also Elamite and Scythian creature of the similar features. Thus not to be confused with Senmurw. It is called 'Shirdal' sometimes in modern Persian and Kurdish too. Those capitals in Persepolis which resemble Mesopatamian art are considered griffins not Simurg.
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Post by Temüjin on Jun 27, 2013 14:56:31 GMT 3
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Post by Druzhina on Jun 6, 2014 12:52:57 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 6, 2014 14:32:10 GMT 3
Interesting, thanks.
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Post by Temüjin on Jun 8, 2014 11:05:36 GMT 3
second link doesn't work for me, but if anyone needs translations for the captions in the first, just ask. while we're at it, this is from a monastery in northern italy from the early 8th century:  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 8, 2014 15:04:48 GMT 3
Very interesting.
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Post by Druzhina on Jun 11, 2014 15:43:58 GMT 3
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Post by Temüjin on Jun 11, 2014 20:48:38 GMT 3
thx, very interesting
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Post by Temüjin on May 26, 2015 20:28:50 GMT 3
this painting of the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb on the march with his army might be the origin of the "fish" claim, since in the background you can clearly see a large fish-shaped standard (large image): upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Bhavanidas._The_Emperor_Aurangzeb_Carried_on_a_Palanquin_ca._1705%E2%80%9320_Metripolitan_Museum_of_Art..jpganyways, i no longer believe the draco standard to be a representation of the Simurgh. the similarities between the Sasanian depiction of the Simurgh and medieval depictions of wyverns are most likely not incidental, still. however, it seems now unlikely that that connection was through the use of the draco standard. the Simurgh doesn't really feature at all in the mythological world of most steppe cultures, while the wolf is an animal of utmost importance and reverence for almost all known steppe cultures. thus, the draco standard is most likely a stylized representation of a traditional wolf totem (wolf skin on a pole). |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 27, 2015 19:44:31 GMT 3
Very interesting detail, nice catch.
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