Post by Bor Chono on Jun 1, 2006 12:45:13 GMT 3
Hey Nomad! Don`t you have own CULTURE? I mean chinese are not steppe ppl! -what about Kazak Vampires?
Everyone is Vampire! Every evil (from evil spirit to living Monster) like to drink blood. If I were a evil, my dream would be eternal river of blood.
Milk & Blood is sacret for Mongols. When U give animal(mostly horse) as sacrife to Tengri /sometimes/ U need to brink it`s blood.(-presently not practiced!)
Chinese Vampires are like BUGs(=evil spirit) they feed on human energy.
Only one Evil can suck whole life from a person at once. It is TIREN -full name is AD TIREN. Arabs call it Djinn(GENIE -a magical spirit in Arab fairy stories.) -I think it looks like Arab Djinn. An evil spirit with magic powers.
Mongol Djinn is pure EVIL -It is like CHUTGUR(=Demon).
He looks like smoke or human with smoke tail or some say just a human -very fast moving. Most evil spirits try to enter human body to take control of it. But Tiren will use human life(=energy) to re-build it`s own body. It is the one who will reborn again & again. The unlucky one is the one who first opened something where the Tiren was sleeping as Evil spirit, after it suck whole life from it`s first met person it will born as AD-TIREN. Mission of Ad Tiren is to find a lord and start a great war =maybe World War. There is a legend that the Great khaan had one. And his descendants worshiped him as God.
I don`t know how to kill it. But I know that it doesn`t stay powerful for long time -maybe becomes spirit again.
If U are powerful shaman U can call one.="Tiren bosgoh"
A Story of the Last Tiren (I heard it from my wife`s elder brother)
There was a building.(=maybe it was a Temple) Also there were many Lamas(=Monks) surrounding this building, and they were reading spell books that cast away evil spirits. One lazy, poor guy came and asked what was happening. The monks were happy. They gave him cloth & food. And told him to spend a night in the building.
The guy said : -OK.
Before he entered the building one old monk came & told him that many men died in this building, and a Tiren lives there. If U want to live play chess all night. Tiren likes chess very much. U can`t see it. Only drunk Tirens can be seen. Monks will give U alcohol do not drink it. Take water and drink. Act like U are drunk. When U see him beat him untill it give a word to be your slave.
The man started to play chess, and was asking "-come on show yourself, drink with me!" surely he was drinking water. He put cup of alcohol for Tiren. Nothing was happening. He was getting sleepy for real. Then he saw that cup started to fly -something drinked it. Then he saw a Tiren -Tiren was about to suck his energy, it was bowing. The Tiren was like real human. Lazy guy started to beat him. Then Tiren said "-please don`t hurt me, I`ll be your servent".
Next day monks desided that the building was clean. They gave him money & sent home. At home he wished many many things, he bacame rich & famouse & generous. But all his riches some how were stolen. Ppl came to him saying "-Give me my ....!, how it came here? It is my horse look at his Tamga(=symbol)."....etc. When the guests gone the Tiren came & asked "-Would U like to kill him?". Even during night Tiren asked something?. It was driving him crazy. Then the guy desided to wish for something very hard to do.
First wish was "-I would like to eat Chinese king`s buuz(=Bauzi -food name)" few minutes later Tiren came with big with buuzs.
Second wish was "-I would like to have green sheep skin" few days later it brought a sheep skin. The skin color was light green.
Third wish was "-Go & beat one of Tengries!"
Tiren said : -My lord it is hard job, but I think I can do it. First My lord, U need to burn dog`s white nuts. I will jump over it. Seconds later Sky became dark & sounds of lightning burst.
The guy saw that the Tiren was running away from a cloud. The could was firing by lightning. The Tiren jumped over what it thought was dog nuts but it wasn`t dog nuts it was juniper. The guy did it. When shocked Tiren stoped for a second cloud striked it with lightning, nothing was left from it. The cloud also killed the guy. THE END
I think moral of this story is : Alcohol is bad for human spirit, even a powerful Tiren can lose it`s invisibility. Or do not play with Tengri.
Everyone is Vampire! Every evil (from evil spirit to living Monster) like to drink blood. If I were a evil, my dream would be eternal river of blood.
Milk & Blood is sacret for Mongols. When U give animal(mostly horse) as sacrife to Tengri /sometimes/ U need to brink it`s blood.(-presently not practiced!)
Chinese Vampires are like BUGs(=evil spirit) they feed on human energy.
Only one Evil can suck whole life from a person at once. It is TIREN -full name is AD TIREN. Arabs call it Djinn(GENIE -a magical spirit in Arab fairy stories.) -I think it looks like Arab Djinn. An evil spirit with magic powers.
Mongol Djinn is pure EVIL -It is like CHUTGUR(=Demon).
He looks like smoke or human with smoke tail or some say just a human -very fast moving. Most evil spirits try to enter human body to take control of it. But Tiren will use human life(=energy) to re-build it`s own body. It is the one who will reborn again & again. The unlucky one is the one who first opened something where the Tiren was sleeping as Evil spirit, after it suck whole life from it`s first met person it will born as AD-TIREN. Mission of Ad Tiren is to find a lord and start a great war =maybe World War. There is a legend that the Great khaan had one. And his descendants worshiped him as God.
I don`t know how to kill it. But I know that it doesn`t stay powerful for long time -maybe becomes spirit again.
If U are powerful shaman U can call one.="Tiren bosgoh"
A Story of the Last Tiren (I heard it from my wife`s elder brother)
There was a building.(=maybe it was a Temple) Also there were many Lamas(=Monks) surrounding this building, and they were reading spell books that cast away evil spirits. One lazy, poor guy came and asked what was happening. The monks were happy. They gave him cloth & food. And told him to spend a night in the building.
The guy said : -OK.
Before he entered the building one old monk came & told him that many men died in this building, and a Tiren lives there. If U want to live play chess all night. Tiren likes chess very much. U can`t see it. Only drunk Tirens can be seen. Monks will give U alcohol do not drink it. Take water and drink. Act like U are drunk. When U see him beat him untill it give a word to be your slave.
The man started to play chess, and was asking "-come on show yourself, drink with me!" surely he was drinking water. He put cup of alcohol for Tiren. Nothing was happening. He was getting sleepy for real. Then he saw that cup started to fly -something drinked it. Then he saw a Tiren -Tiren was about to suck his energy, it was bowing. The Tiren was like real human. Lazy guy started to beat him. Then Tiren said "-please don`t hurt me, I`ll be your servent".
Next day monks desided that the building was clean. They gave him money & sent home. At home he wished many many things, he bacame rich & famouse & generous. But all his riches some how were stolen. Ppl came to him saying "-Give me my ....!, how it came here? It is my horse look at his Tamga(=symbol)."....etc. When the guests gone the Tiren came & asked "-Would U like to kill him?". Even during night Tiren asked something?. It was driving him crazy. Then the guy desided to wish for something very hard to do.
First wish was "-I would like to eat Chinese king`s buuz(=Bauzi -food name)" few minutes later Tiren came with big with buuzs.
Second wish was "-I would like to have green sheep skin" few days later it brought a sheep skin. The skin color was light green.
Third wish was "-Go & beat one of Tengries!"
Tiren said : -My lord it is hard job, but I think I can do it. First My lord, U need to burn dog`s white nuts. I will jump over it. Seconds later Sky became dark & sounds of lightning burst.
The guy saw that the Tiren was running away from a cloud. The could was firing by lightning. The Tiren jumped over what it thought was dog nuts but it wasn`t dog nuts it was juniper. The guy did it. When shocked Tiren stoped for a second cloud striked it with lightning, nothing was left from it. The cloud also killed the guy. THE END
I think moral of this story is : Alcohol is bad for human spirit, even a powerful Tiren can lose it`s invisibility. Or do not play with Tengri.