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Post by Bor Chono on Aug 28, 2006 7:02:01 GMT 3
Hurmasta Tengri. Mongols worship to Hurmasta(=?) Tengri. (I think it is Rain Tengri, word "Hur" means "Rain"). When Mongols attack they would shout "Hurai". When they celebrate something they shout "Hurai". Oops a little(-I guess!) mistake there! -When Mongols attack they say "Uraa.." or "Urraa.."(maybe "Uuhai...") -well it sounds like "Hurrai"(=Hurray?). "Uraa..."(-Kalimag Mongol way) is short form of word "Uragshaa..."(=Forward..!). Mongols say "Hurray" a lot -When a child fall down & crying Mothers say "Hurai.. Hurai.." to stop it crying. -When ppl are celebrating something (=during party), every time after someone told something(=wishes & tosts) others shout "Hurai..Hurai".  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2006 9:38:54 GMT 3
Does anyone here know of a good web site that explains Tengriism very well? The history and everything else that goes with it, mainly the version the Turks followed, if there's a difference beween Turk Tengriism and Mongol Tengriim I'm sure it's not much. Also, for Shamanism. Thanks, I need this as soon as possible.
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Post by snafu on Oct 11, 2006 10:52:00 GMT 3
Does anyone here know of a good web site that explains Tengriism very well? The history and everything else that goes with it, mainly the version the Turks followed, if there's a difference beween Turk Tengriism and Mongol Tengriim I'm sure it's not much. Also, for Shamanism. Thanks, I need this as soon as possible. This might help aton.ttu.edu/OLD_TURK_DEITIES.asp |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 11, 2006 16:36:31 GMT 3
Does anyone here know of a good web site that explains Tengriism very well? The history and everything else that goes with it, mainly the version the Turks followed, if there's a difference beween Turk Tengriism and Mongol Tengriim I'm sure it's not much. Also, for Shamanism. Thanks, I need this as soon as possible. Not a website, but I can advise you some books  Jean Paul-Roux's Ancient Religion of the Turks and Mongols (translated into Turkish as Türklerin ve Moðollarýn Eski Dini) is perhaps among the best works done on this area. Radloff and Abdülkadir Ýnan have very good works on the Neo-Tengrism or Shamanism of the Siberian Turks. Hikmet Tanyu's and Ýbrahim Kafesoðlu's works are more "conservative", trying to proove the Turko-Islamist view of how Islâm and Tengrism are so close to each other. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 17:53:20 GMT 3
Does anyone here know of a good web site that explains Tengriism very well? The history and everything else that goes with it, mainly the version the Turks followed, if there's a difference beween Turk Tengriism and Mongol Tengriim I'm sure it's not much. Also, for Shamanism. Thanks, I need this as soon as possible. Not a website, but I can advise you some books Jean Paul-Roux's Ancient Religion of the Turks and Mongols (translated into Turkish as Türklerin ve Moðollarýn Eski Dini) is perhaps among the best works done on this area. Radloff and Abdülkadir Ýnan have very good works on the Neo-Tengrism or Shamanism of the Siberian Turks. Hikmet Tanyu's and Ýbrahim Kafesoðlu's works are more "conservative", trying to proove the Turko-Islamist view of how Islâm and Tengrism are so close to each other. Thanks but I need a web site to add the link in an article for my friend. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 17:54:25 GMT 3
Does anyone here know of a good web site that explains Tengriism very well? The history and everything else that goes with it, mainly the version the Turks followed, if there's a difference beween Turk Tengriism and Mongol Tengriim I'm sure it's not much. Also, for Shamanism. Thanks, I need this as soon as possible. This might help aton.ttu.edu/OLD_TURK_DEITIES.aspThanks, I'll check it out. |
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Post by raapi on Nov 8, 2006 2:10:12 GMT 3
"Allah" is an arabic word for Tengri. I always been interested why Allah is called Tenger. In Mongolian lang "Allah Tenger" means "Islam" -Buddism & Cristianity had no names with Tenger. I think, now I got it. Wow, you say allah-tenger for Islam? That's interesting. Are there any other funny things like that in Mongolian? |
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Nov 16, 2006 14:02:16 GMT 3
Why do you consider it funny?
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Post by tengrikut on Nov 16, 2006 14:23:53 GMT 3
Hurmasta Tengri. Mongols worship to Hurmasta(=?) Tengri. (I think it is Rain Tengri, word "Hur" means "Rain"). When Mongols attack they would shout "Hurai". When they celebrate something they shout "Hurai". Oops a little(-I guess!) mistake there! -When Mongols attack they say "Uraa.." or "Urraa.."(maybe "Uuhai...") -well it sounds like "Hurrai"(=Hurray?). "Uraa..."(-Kalimag Mongol way) is short form of word "Uragshaa..."(=Forward..!). Mongols say "Hurray" a lot -When a child fall down & crying Mothers say "Hurai.. Hurai.." to stop it crying. -When ppl are celebrating something (=during party), every time after someone told something(=wishes & tosts) others shout "Hurai..Hurai". even attila had used it. it means vur-ha (ur-ha). vur- means to hit and ha is a meaningless word we use it as a excite sound it is a reflection |
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Post by tangriberdi on Nov 23, 2006 3:47:05 GMT 3
By the way. Arabic Allah means the God of Gods It derives from Semitic il ilah , god of gods
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 23, 2006 20:12:35 GMT 3
I have doubts on that, we have to consult an expert (I will do that next week)  |
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Post by balamir on Nov 29, 2006 13:33:48 GMT 3
A Turk proverb:
Ýt'in efendisi varsa Kurdun Tanrý'sý var!
Ýf dog has master,Wolf has a God!
Man,ý want to ask Tenri in this proverb.Ýs it Köktenri?Or normal God(Allah)?
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Post by Atabeg on Nov 30, 2006 0:14:20 GMT 3
By the way. Arabic Allah means the God of Gods It derives from Semitic il ilah , god of gods yes it is well accualy it al Ilah. it means The GOD ilah is god in arabic |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 16, 2006 0:18:42 GMT 3
I asked Prof. Dr. Ahmet Yaþar Ocak (one of the leading religious history experts in Turkey) about what he thinks of this problem regarding the ethymology of the name Allâh. He answered that many Arabic linguists brought many different views, but it is more possible that it was a unique word.
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Post by Atabeg on Dec 16, 2006 0:22:35 GMT 3
if i remember correctly the 99 names of Allah all and on lah or ilah or ulah this has something to do with the arabic word for God ilah i think
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