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Post by Turanist on Jan 2, 2015 12:40:51 GMT 3
When I read about Tengriism today I only see or hear Mongolians.
I know there are some culturial events happening in the Turk/Turkic world today but are there Turks,Turkic or Hunnic people that still believe in this religion?
I have read about it and I love to embrace this ancient religion which represented my ancestors.
Edit: Arent the Huns, Mongols and Turkic the samething basicly? Now they arent off course but I mean historical speaking as in bloodline or being a family.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 3, 2015 21:04:31 GMT 3
The Turkic peoples living in southern Siberia (Altai, Khakassia and Tuva) still believe Tengri (the Tuvans are Lamaist Buddhists but Tengrism-Shamanism still lives in their beliefs). However they sometimes use alternative names such as Tengri Qayra Khan, or they sometimes never use it as especially the Tuvans consider the name Tengri a taboo. Besides, the cult of Tengri was always stronger among steppe Turkic peoples when large nomadic empires existed as it was also the official cult - one Tengri in the sky and one Qaghan in the world is it's ideology. However, large steppe empires ceased to exist after the 18th century and the southern Siberian Turkic peoples either never had nomadic empires or their qaghanates existed far earlier, so other minor cults of animism (gods and spirits of natural beings) became more prominent among these peoples.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 3, 2015 21:06:12 GMT 3
And no, Turks and Mongols aren't the same. Yes the Huns were a Turkic people, but Mongols were different. However, up until the 15th-16th centuries, the cultural differences between Turkic and Mongolic peoples was lesser when compared with the last few centuries. This was partially because of religious factors as Islam and Buddhism opened up the gap between these different peoples.
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Post by Turanist on Jan 4, 2015 9:50:59 GMT 3
So the Mongols dont originate from the same family tree? Because if so what are their or the Turkic origins?
I wonder how the Turks for example forgot about their old religion and stepped into to the foreign one, basicly being assimilated.
Strangely even nowadays assimilation is still in progress, especially in Europe where you are kinda forced to assimilate but in Turkey its called nationalism. Its strange that westerns keep getting more and more rightwingers. Christian countries becomming Atheistic. I wonder about the future.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 4, 2015 17:41:21 GMT 3
Yes they probably shared the same ancestors but it was many many millenia ago, probably. The similarities between Turks and Mongols are usually borrowings from each other, not things coming from common origins.
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