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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Jun 21, 2012 8:32:40 GMT 3
these are some of the examples that Hollywood is trying to whitewash the history of Eurasian nomads:  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 21, 2012 16:35:15 GMT 3
Yeah they all look funny ;D
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Post by hjernespiser on Jun 21, 2012 17:49:25 GMT 3
DON'T GET ME STARTED! LOL!
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Post by siberiancoldbreeze on Jul 6, 2012 1:27:40 GMT 3
They must be fed up with making 10th of Robin Hood ,20 th Tarzan ,countless Aleksandrs and running out of (their real) heros .. i wish they made more fantasy and science fiction .. Mickey Rourke as Genghis khan is really a bad idea .. ..Johne Wayne as Genghis Khan was worst idea ever.. btw : I became Tarkan ..yay!!thank you steppe h forum (þýkýdým þýkýdým  ) |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 6, 2012 11:05:01 GMT 3
lol ;D
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Post by pecheneg on Jul 15, 2012 20:24:18 GMT 3
disgusting |
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Post by feidzd on Aug 1, 2012 5:16:07 GMT 3
haha...they all look very funny,is it?
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Post by hjernespiser on Aug 3, 2012 9:09:12 GMT 3
Dude, Attila was not a Lapp either.
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Post by aynur on Aug 10, 2012 19:58:42 GMT 3
Dude, Attila was not a Lapp either. He does look like a Finnic tribesman in that picture. Yet another inaccurate portrayal. Probably laughed most at Omar Sharif as Genghis Khan. |
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Post by hjernespiser on Aug 10, 2012 22:54:55 GMT 3
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Post by Ardavarz on Aug 13, 2012 3:38:42 GMT 3
Why is it always that Attila and other Steppe leaders are depicted in the movies as savage "barbarians" with gleaming eyes of bloodthirsty maniacs? This romantic image of "barbarians" being unrestrained and violent "men of instincts and desires" as opposed to the "civilized" people has nothing to do with reality. One can see that from the eyewitness accounts of Pricsus for instance. (Or also from the diplomatic letters of Attila and Mao-Tun as far as they are quoted in the chronicles - both seem to have been highly educated and cultured men, not savage chiefs run by uncontrolled ferocity).
Yes, the Steppe nomads had severe customs that were conditioned by the environment they live in - an area with extreme scarcity of resources - but this also determined a rigorous discipline of moderate living (as can be seen from the maxims of the Scythians - the philosopher Anacharsis and the king Ataias) and an ethos which compared to that of Romans and even Germans appears as almost ascetic. (It is interesting to see how similar conditions give rise to similar customs - cf. for instance the customs of the Native American tribes from the Prearie - some of them are almost identical to those of the ancient Scythians).
And it is not only Hollywood - the Fritz Lang's screen version of the "Nibelungs" features the Huns as almost troglodyte hardly human savages which doesn't correspond not only to the historical truth, but also to the actual description in the original poem. (I guess this was an influence from the Nazi ideology).
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Post by feidzd on Aug 13, 2012 5:01:42 GMT 3
I like see Jackie chan.
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Post by hjernespiser on Aug 13, 2012 8:23:08 GMT 3
Ardavarz,
Because they're the bad guys in the story. Haha, the terrible Hungarian movie "Honfoglalas" depicts the Pechenegs, enemies of the Magyars, in the same way!
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Post by sarmat on Aug 14, 2012 0:05:45 GMT 3
It's just all propaganda, to me sedentary neighbors of the nomades were often much more barbaric and uncivilized. However, if you look at the "civilized" sources, the nomades are often depicted as righteous and pure people compare to their opponents. Homer called them "virtuous" for example.
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Post by Subu'atai on Aug 14, 2012 8:57:07 GMT 3
LOL @ Morgan Freeman & Jackie Chan hahaha
Ne ways you'll see propaganda not only against steppe folk but to this day there's still anti-Russian BS or cultural perks/jokes such as "in Soviet Russia, the car drives YOU", etc etc (trying to portray Russia as backwards/etc)
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