Post by H. Ihsan Erkoc on May 9, 2012 15:45:57 GMT 3
The Hungarian Turkologist Rásonyi László (Laszlo Rasonyi) once suggested that Prince Basarab I of Wallachia (ancestor of the famous Wallachian prince Vlad III or commonly known as "Vlad the Impaler") might have actually been of Qypchaq-speaking Chinggisid origin from the house of Blue Horde of the Ulus of Jochi. He linked Basarab's name with Middle Turkic Basar Aba.
What do you think about this theory?
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the Qypchaq theory for Bassarab has been around for quite some time and seems generally accepted, but it's the first time i've heard Bassarab linked to the Golden Family of Chinggis Qaan...i'd like to see the evidences....
Unlikely, but apparently Basarab dynasty originates from Kypchaks assimilated into Valachs. In fact, there is a huge chunk of Kypchaks that settled in the area and was assimilated. There is very interesting evidence and traces of that. Like Valachians had many mounted archers and also there are very ancient words of Turkic origin in Romanian language, mostly related to arms and military, etc.
Interesting,.I read that Vlad The Impaler or Vlat Tzepesh,nad some Bulgarian roots.But since in the Bulgar kingdom before the Ottoman conquest there were some Cumans already -about 12-14 century A.D. Which are actually the 2 centuries you spoke about with serious Kypchak / Cuman presence in the region and this might be the relation of the origin of Vlad III. Although i read some material about he has some Bulgarian kin or cousins or something,because the Name Vlad is Slavic ,Its all mixed though ,but its most probably of Cuman origin as a descent.He did made a lot of troubles to the Ottomans,but he was finally captured and his head was brought to the Sultan.
Although i read some material about he has some Bulgarian kin or cousins or something,because the Name Slav is Slavic ,Its all mixed though ,but its most probably of Cuman origin as a descent.He did made a lot of troibles to the Ottomans,but he was finally captured.
His Slavic name is not surprising at all given that Slavic was official language of Romanian principalities all the way until the 19th century and all the chronicles and official documents were exclusively written in Slavic, more precise, Church Slavonic.
Not sure about Tepes relations to Bulgarians though. He actually killed thousands of Bulgarians during his raids into Ottoman empire.
Yes,it was probably Bulgarians thrown to fight against him by the Ottomans,or Muslim converts from Bulgaria,i read he killed everyone who set foot on Transilvanian - Valachian land ( The name Romania didn´t existed at this time ) And yes i heard about the Romanians used Slavic language,but i wasn´t shure it was until that long of the 19-th century.This is not suprising,because mostly from all sides of today´s Romania there were Slavic people living.