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Post by duncan on Oct 17, 2011 6:26:46 GMT 3
Okay a few thousand web searches later and I still have no idea what kind of knife a Hun or Magyar would have carried. My thought are a single edge fairly long thick blade as a daily work/hunting/protection knife, and as for a war blade a double edge long robust blade. I bow to yall’s knowledge on this. How close or how far off the mark am I and if possible could you post pics or give measurements because I plan on doing a build. Bill Duncan
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Post by hjernespiser on Oct 17, 2011 7:42:32 GMT 3
Huns and Hungarians would probably have had different knives since they are from different time periods. From the show catalog of the Hungarian National Museum's 1996 show "The Ancient Hungarians"... There's just not a lot. Here's what I did find. Only one entry had a photo. # IV.90.44.1 Iron knife with a thin, straight blade. The cutting edge is slightly bent and fragmentary. Length: 11.4cm Width of blade: 0.95cm # IV.80.43.3 Small iron knife, with a straight back. Length: 7.5cm Width: 1.0 - 1.5cm # IV.90.172.0 Small iron knife. L. 5.9cm W. 1.2cm
# uninventoried Straight-backed iron knife, with a curved cutting edge L. 8.8cm
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Post by hjernespiser on Oct 17, 2011 7:46:20 GMT 3
They don't seem to have any long war blades other than swords. They also used axes and spears. They used both straight double-edged swords that looked somewhat like Viking swords and sabres whose lower-third were double-edged.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 17, 2011 19:59:59 GMT 3
In November-December 1948, Bahaeddin Ögel, a prominent Turkish Central Asian historian, published an article in the 5th volume of Türk Tarih Kurumu's (Turkish Association of History) journal Belleten, with the title Türk Kılıcının Menşe ve Tekâmülü Hakkında ("About the Origin and Development of the Turkish Sword"). In this article, B. Ögel proposed a theory, in which he claimed that the "Turkish Sword", the Saber, was first developed by the Asian Huns (Xiongnu) and later spread all over Eurasia, becoming the ancestor of all saber and one-sided swords, including the Japanese sword. Using archaeological evidence unearthed by Russian-Soviet, Hungarian and German archaeologists, he represented a rich collection of swords used by the Asian Huns, European Huns, Avars, Gokturks, Uyghurs, Yenisei Qyrghyz, Bulgars, Magyars, Pecheneks, Qypchaqs (Cumans) and Oghuz. He proposed that the earliest example of the saber were among the daggers found in Ordos and Trans-Baikal. Though his examples of swords used by the previously-mentioned peoples also included double-faced long swords. This means that both were used, and I think the latter were more common. Here are the daggers and swords Prof. Ögel showed as examples of the earliest possible ancestor of sabers:
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Post by duncan on Oct 18, 2011 5:22:34 GMT 3
Thank yall so much.
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