Modu Tanhu
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Post by Modu Tanhu on Sept 24, 2011 14:29:26 GMT 3
There are even Belgian people that said to me: we will just start another crusade to erase terrorists like you from earth.
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Post by ancalimon on Sept 24, 2011 14:50:55 GMT 3
Did you do something which terrorized fellow Belgians? ... Like I said before. The reason Christianity organized these crusades was not to spread Christianity or invade lands of other people. The pure purpose of the crusades was to change the past. They wanted to collect & destroy as much history as possible... And every single crusade was a huge success. If you think about it, it would all become clear.
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Modu Tanhu
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Post by Modu Tanhu on Sept 25, 2011 16:19:28 GMT 3
No they said that because I'm Turkish and muslim.
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Post by hjernespiser on Sept 25, 2011 18:15:31 GMT 3
I'd posit a guess that your experience doesn't have so much to do with education about the Crusades in Belgium so much as it has to do with just pure racism and fear. You, being an outsider, represent a threat to the insider group of "native" Belgians. It is exacerbated when the cultures of the outsider and insider groups are quite different from each other. If there were no Crusades, they'd just find some other way to harass.
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Post by Subu'atai on Sept 25, 2011 18:19:26 GMT 3
With most people in the world being sheep, and with the media promoting anti-muslim prejudice, such attitudes are common since 9/11. To the point sometimes at random I just like to outburst allah-o-akbar in public and everyone looks at me as if I'm about to blow myself up lol
Hell, I make fun of people's ignorance too much methinks!
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Post by hjernespiser on Sept 25, 2011 18:33:13 GMT 3
Sure, the education system in Belgium and the media just reinforces what is already latent. At the same time, since 9/11, the school I went to here in America, in all likelihood, no longer gives writing assignments asking the student to pretend they are the Pope. The biggest joke to me is when I hear moderate Christians complain about moderate Muslims not taking a harder stance against Muslim extremism yet they turn a blind eye to Christian extremism.
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Post by Subu'atai on Sept 26, 2011 0:21:50 GMT 3
Heh you rarely hear about Christian extremists if you live in a Western country really. I also remember how it was in the past since 2001, the news always like to mention "Muslim this, Muslim that", yet for Christian extremists, they don't mention the CHRISTIAN part heh, always just "Extremist this, terrorism that... don't have to mention the word Christian" - small little details like that can make a big difference to the masses of sheep. I've also noticed how people forget that the KKK in America were Christian extremists but it seems people forget the Christian part. Similarly, extremist organisations like the KKK are just considered "Extremists" and "Are not true Christians" etc while the West continues to degrade Islam whenever they can - seemingly unable to grasp that there is good and bad in Islam just like in Christianity. It's hypocrisy and ignorance, but both rather entertaining regardless however.
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Post by merlkir on Sept 26, 2011 10:47:51 GMT 3
To be fair though, most people consider the likes of Westboro Baptist church (who are very much Christians) to be dangerous and crazy as a badger for instance.
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Modu Tanhu
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Post by Modu Tanhu on Sept 27, 2011 0:28:48 GMT 3
Of course they are racist what I mean to tell is, those who support crusades are hostile towards eastern population.
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Post by schiirschach on Nov 11, 2011 18:43:31 GMT 3
Catholic Church was a great force behind it - It was a holy war ( jihad !!) and there was no concept of human rights - the victors did as they pleased. I think every one had their own reasons for going for the crusades.
In a way, the "War on terror" is another crusade. The power of the church has diminished but other values have become important, like democracy, human rights, liberty etc. But one factor is common - greed, greed for power, influence and money(oil). The jihadists like to think that way too, but what the hell Im going on a trip...
Over all, the Crusades has worse effects on the eastern European and Baltic areas - entire cultures were wiped out or suppressed.
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Post by Yazig on Nov 18, 2011 0:40:39 GMT 3
I don't remember being taught that Crusades were something good. It' always about power. The only man that I respect from this period is Saladin although who knows what all things he has done...
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Post by irelander on Dec 15, 2011 4:15:34 GMT 3
The state of history education in America is this. First there was Egypt then Greece then Rome then the medivial kingdoms then the renisonce then Britian then you. Everyone else are just savages. Hence my people didn't exist untill the 1800s.
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Post by Yazig on Jan 1, 2012 3:49:12 GMT 3
America is no true nation. Only the natives are americans.
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Post by aynur on Mar 17, 2012 18:13:36 GMT 3
United States is controlled by the same Germanic ethnic consortium of international bankers and financiers who fund and create wars and conflicts in Third World countries for sheer profit and power, and present the old pattern of old western propaganda in all of our history books -- that Egypt was the world's first civilization, although we know for sure that it's not the case. Archaeologists have found structures over 10,000 years old throughout the Middle East and Western Africa.
Freemasons from Europe and the U.S. continue to rob Mesoamerican and, more importantly, African artifacts centuries if not millenia old from tribes and nations that have lived in those areas long before they came. It's a systematic dumbing down of the entire world that turns down real knowledge and presents completely cheap and phony 'facts' in the indoctrination books we were given when we were children and early adolescents. Religious fanaticism was just another way for the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (originally the Knight Templar) to provide them with a widespread geographical conflict between two equally evil institutions so that they could plunder and scavenge any ancient knowledge for themselves, keeping it in the dark from others. And wasn't Christopher Columbus a fake explorer? Modern 'history education', if you want to call it that, has become like a rotten tomato. You have to see through the facade and do research and look for information by yourself, not expect teachers to tell you the 'truth' that the people at the top would want you to hear. Do I sound like a conspiracy theorist? Maybe, but all the events in world history point to the same direction. There's no such thing as a coincidence in this life.
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Post by rrichad on Apr 14, 2012 9:53:05 GMT 3
"The Baltic crusade however was truly bloody, a pity too that the last "pagan" stronghold in Europe got converted eventually; even if they managed to win strategically, they lost culturally."
Nah they didn't - luckily. There are more people reverting back to paganism every day in Lithuania, especially young people who see thru the Catholic Church's desire to keep people ignorant and controlled. The rot started when Peter usurped the power of Jesus' wife, Mary Magdalene, rewrote or ignored many of the gospels which didn't fit his worldview, and generally changed the principles of the whole thing...
Aynur is right when he talks of dumbing down of nations. That is a fact, that men would now rather die than think for themselves...
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