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Post by Atabeg on Sept 8, 2009 4:22:58 GMT 3
those words don't sound Turkic at al
do you perhaps mean tasavvuf?
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Post by Modu on Sept 8, 2009 15:47:40 GMT 3
Mr Ihsan, as far as I know, The Turks believes and still pray to their dead ancestors, requesting blessing from them. They call it "Tawassul" or "Tashaffu". This practices has been denounced as innovation by the orthodox Muslims. Maybe this is one of the retained influenced of their pre-islamic tradition. I read books published by Hakikat Kitabevi (WaqfIhlas) sanctioned this practice. It is Tasavvuf ( Sufism) I think... not Tawassul |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 8, 2009 16:10:39 GMT 3
The Turks have retained their ancestors and deads cult strongly enough to have Middle Easterners, especially Iranians, getting influenced from it too. That's why there were no major tombs in the Middle East before the Turks came in big numbers in the 11th century. As for the words Tawassul and Tashaffu, I have no idea.
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Post by kenmirzz on Sept 9, 2009 4:10:16 GMT 3
Hello all
No, I am sure it's not "Tasavvuf". It's Tawassul which means seeking intermediary of the dead when praying to God. The Turks ( those who are non-wahhabis) practiced this, even the Indian emulate it too and were branded as "Grave-worshipper" by the extremist orthodox.
Anyway, sorry for deviating from the topic.
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Post by Modu on Sept 10, 2009 14:23:49 GMT 3
Great Steppe Warrior " Modu Shanyu "  |
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Post by ALTAR on Sept 28, 2009 23:40:19 GMT 3
Warriors of Eurasia: From the VIII Century BC to the XVII Century AD By Mikhael Gorelik
Publisher: Montvert Publications 1995 | 48 Pages | ISBN: 1874101078 | PDF | 22 MB
In ancient and medieval times the lands of what is now referred to as the former Soviet Union provided the battlegrounds for some of the most fantastic warriors history has known. The purpose of this book is to give us a glimpse of what they looked like. It features twenty-two full colour plates showing expert reconstructions of nearly seventy exotic warriors from places as far apart as from the Danube in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east, where Chuckchi warriors even terrorised the inhabitants of the western coasts of America! Each plate is accompanied by its own text giving a short historical outline and a description of the military characteristics and arms and armour of its principals. |
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Post by hjernespiser on Sept 29, 2009 7:49:57 GMT 3
Chukchi armor Attachments:
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 29, 2009 13:14:29 GMT 3
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Post by ALTAR on Sept 29, 2009 14:07:12 GMT 3
Glad to hear it, My Ulu Qagan. ;D   Btwn Congratulations for your Graduation Take this as a small gift ;D |
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Post by sarmat on Sept 29, 2009 18:56:10 GMT 3
Many thanks to Altar for sharing this book !
And congratulations to the Qagan from me as well !
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 29, 2009 19:33:37 GMT 3
Thanks guys  Actually that was my MA graduation's ceremony, which I had already graduated last year but they made the ceremony this year ;D |
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 29, 2009 19:45:37 GMT 3
yeah that Chukchi armour is fascinating... ;D
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Post by Subu'atai on Oct 7, 2009 14:06:53 GMT 3
It looks like having chainmail wrapped around yourself =/
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Post by ivan55599 on Oct 7, 2009 18:10:22 GMT 3
is that thing for camouflage or armor? |
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Post by chichak on Nov 22, 2009 1:59:59 GMT 3
Greetings from a new Hungarian member!
The forum's got some fantastic collection up here.
I would especially like to thank for gie's link on Siberian reconstructions! That was one of the most fascinating sites I have come across lately. Altar's link was also a great surprise as well as the beautiful artworks by Ganbat & grmc12tarkhan! Thank you all!
Now moving on to the more critical aspects:
Is it just me, or do others also see the blunder in how most of the drawings are showing large horses, instead of the smaller Central Asian types?
We also shouldn't forget that armor was a very costly equipment and only the richer warriors could afford to buy them or get them done. So beside the flashy armors the majority still fought lightly.
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