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Post by thracianglad on May 6, 2009 1:37:52 GMT 3
 One day I'm going to have to dress up my wife in that outfit, arm her with a bow and sit her on a horse bareback... ... that pose has a very unique charm...  Good idea, dude! Sorry, but I gonna steal it  I mean the idea |
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Post by thracianglad on May 6, 2009 1:43:27 GMT 3
Hun warrior (Xuongnu)  Bulgarian hunters  Pecheneg warrior  |
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Post by sarmat on May 6, 2009 8:24:26 GMT 3
Tartars.... Actually I am not sure  These are supposed to be Polovitsians from the illustration to the "Tale of Igor's Campaign." |
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Post by thracianglad on May 6, 2009 9:24:52 GMT 3
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Post by ALTAR on May 6, 2009 20:04:35 GMT 3
Thracianglad,
Dont add pictures which includes Anti-Turk Sentiments of Bulgarian Racist Groups !
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Post by hjernespiser on May 7, 2009 7:07:31 GMT 3
Pecheneg warrior I want to point something out here in light of the earlier discussions about Magyar costume... Notice this man's kaftan? See how it is held closed by "frogs", that is, the cloth buttons. This was a popular style on the western steppes. There's historic artwork showing Bulgars with similar kaftans that I've posted somewhere here before. Pechenegs are contemporaneous with the early Magyars. And yet many reconstruction drawings of Magyar costume shows the Gokturk double lapel style. Interestingly I found this link wychwood.wikidot.com/kit-coats which talks very briefly about the frogs. "The Alan kaftan finds are generally quite similar to each other. These all feature asymmetrical openings on the left, single lapels (on the outer panel), no standing collars and cloth frogs. They are cut with large underarm gussets- sometimes really obscenely large underarm gussets. They also have two slits down the back, from waist height to the bottom, allowing plenty of movement. The 'skirt' is cut separately from the 'shirt' and then attached. They are normally lined (often with fur), and feature bands of decoration down all exposed edges. Frogging (cloth buttons and loops) seems to have spread from cultures in contact with the Khazars- such as the Bulgars, Alans and presumably also the Rus. In these two pictures of Hauk and Sighfridh, Hauk's red kaftan is in the nomadic style. Note the cloth frogs and the single lapel." |
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Post by thracianglad on May 7, 2009 15:24:07 GMT 3
Thracianglad, Dont add pictures which includes Anti-Turk Sentiments of Bulgarian Racist Groups ! Nothing anti-turkic. If you mean the image " Cuman waiting" I mean that in the oposite there are the cumans, there aren't antyhing rascistic Well I don't think I could be against Cumans, because there is Cuman blood in the modern Bulgarians such as one of the greatest Bulgarian dynasti - Asen. |
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Post by thracianglad on May 7, 2009 15:26:46 GMT 3
hjernespiserI will upload another pics about this frogs Bulgarians killing Byzantines showed as saints  Bulgarian guards. I am not sure is that the same, but it looks like same  Aaagh.... I couldn't find the reconstruction of proto Bulgarian warrior. He had the same clothes Khan Kubrat and his sons 
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Post by ALTAR on May 7, 2009 19:24:11 GMT 3
Nothing anti-turkic. If you mean the image " Cuman waiting" I mean that in the oposite there are the cumans, there aren't antyhing rascistic I mean Brannik image that I deleted. I didn't say the pic is racist, the group(Brannik) has Anti-Turk sentiment and racism.  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 7, 2009 20:20:00 GMT 3
LOL
Ok, yes you are right, I mean modern Bulgarians of course are not 100% Thraco-Slavic, but my point is that the majority are, or more correctly, the amount of original Bulghar-Turkic origins among modern Bulgarians is quite low. If these original Bulghars were larger in number, they wouldn't have been assimiliated. Plus, their language and culture does not have much deep impact on the Bulgarians, I mean the Ugrian Magyars probably have more Bulghar influence than the Bulgarians have (at least, this is what I have seen). Finally, the Bulgarians don't have any Turkic physical characters at all.
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Post by Temüjin on May 7, 2009 20:46:55 GMT 3
Bulgarian guards. I am not sure is that the same, but it looks like same it's similar but not the same. it has different origins. |
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Post by thracianglad on May 7, 2009 21:04:37 GMT 3
Nothing anti-turkic. If you mean the image " Cuman waiting" I mean that in the oposite there are the cumans, there aren't antyhing rascistic I mean Brannik image that I deleted. I didn't say the pic is racist, the group(Brannik) has Anti-Turk sentiment and racism. Well, How did you find out it is anti-turkic I don't know ;D Brannik was organisation of the Bulgarian youth during the WW2. Nowadays some skinheads calls themselves Branniks, but the pic was propaganda poster of the old one. So they weren't anti-turkic, because the Turkish was our alias during WW2. So I can't understand why you have removed my pic?! Maybe it was used by rascist, but there was a Bulgar warrior. I haven't made propaganda! Dude I am anti-fascist(I am not anarchist or member of anti-fa groups), I didn't want to make advertise of the group(which doesn't exist nowadays), so I think it was wrong to delete my image. |
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Post by thracianglad on May 7, 2009 21:13:21 GMT 3
Bulgarian guards. I am not sure is that the same, but it looks like same it's similar but not the same. it has different origins. I think that too, it is like the western European soldier's clothes from the renesance. |
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Post by thracianglad on May 7, 2009 21:21:51 GMT 3
LOL Ok, yes you are right, I mean modern Bulgarians of course are not 100% Thraco-Slavic, but my point is that the majority are, or more correctly, the amount of original Bulghar-Turkic origins among modern Bulgarians is quite low. If these original Bulghars were larger in number, they wouldn't have been assimiliated. Plus, their language and culture does not have much deep impact on the Bulgarians, I mean the Ugrian Magyars probably have more Bulghar influence than the Bulgarians have (at least, this is what I have seen). Finally, the Bulgarians don't have any Turkic physical characters at all. You are funny. How could the nation-master to disapear?! Have you ever seen Bulgarians? You can identify one of them, every men have different kind of face and skull. Another question - It is not prooved that Bulgars were turkic tribe, as the Turkic in Altay. They had Europid faces, it is prooved because of found skulls from Volga Bulgaria of killed by Mongols people. After Danube Bulgarians becaming Christians many pagans were killed because they couldn't accept the new religion - Their skulls were Europid. |
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Post by ALTAR on May 7, 2009 22:56:44 GMT 3
I mean Brannik image that I deleted. I didn't say the pic is racist, the group(Brannik) has Anti-Turk sentiment and racism. Well, How did you find out it is anti-turkic I don't know ;D Brannik was organisation of the Bulgarian youth during the WW2. Nowadays some skinheads calls themselves Branniks, but the pic was propaganda poster of the old one. So they weren't anti-turkic, because the Turkish was our alias during WW2. So I can't understand why you have removed my pic?! Maybe it was used by rascist, but there was a Bulgar warrior. I haven't made propaganda! Dude I am anti-fascist(I am not anarchist or member of anti-fa groups), I didn't want to make advertise of the group(which doesn't exist nowadays), so I think it was wrong to delete my image. Actually the pic was ok. However I was angry when I saw Brannik title. I saw many videos especially in Youtube about these guys who are hostile against Turks. One of them they burned a Turkish flag. So I think you can understand me why I behave like this. If anyone put a group pic who burn Bulgarian flag. you also feel the same things like us.  |
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Good idea, dude! Sorry, but I gonna steal it 
I mean the idea
