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Post by Temüjin on Nov 28, 2010 22:17:04 GMT 3
those old clip surely looks awesome. as far as i know, indeed you steer the horse via your knees on the horse's shoulderblades. that's what i've been taught so far, hence i started bareback from the beginning. fortunately i haven't been falling down so far, but i was never faster than trot either... ;D
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Post by Subu'atai on Nov 29, 2010 1:48:23 GMT 3
hjernespiser2 hrs for a week... so that's around 14 hrs practice. That's rather impressive actually, well at least for me heh. I only have time really once every 1-2 weeks, depending on my mate's schedule as well. So it seems it may take maybe 2-3 months for me to become competent. Maybe even more, I can't really recall any exercise that I've done that builds up inner thigh strength either then squats myself, which I've been rather lazy to do heh. Now that you mention the slowdown BTW, that's something I didn't think of... now I can already see myself sliding FORWARD off my horse over the head lol True, I think I'm just paranoid of falling hard on the ground and breaking something really, think I need to fall down at least once next time so I'll get it into my head - that its not so bad... right? Heh and realise how far away I really am from being a REAL rider lol. Thanks a lot for this information, after I give it a go either this week or the following week I'll let you know how it went, hopefully I would still have all my limbs in working condition by then ;D I'm prolly going slide backwards as soon as I give my horse a kick and land on my back first go though, heh probably going to make a bet with my mate and see if I do or not hehe @babur Ah! I was half-right lol - sure beats reins especially for horse archery and complex manuevers.
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Post by greyknight on Dec 8, 2010 4:21:37 GMT 3
WOW that sucks! You need a permit to own a bow in Australia or something like that? I know that the gun laws there are off the hook but thats crazy stupid that bows are regulated as well. I live in U.S. Maryland to be specific, and we have tight pistol legislation but hell, if I want to shoot my bows all I need to do is go out in a field away from people and houses and shoot til my hearts content. The police around where I live encourage us to train with them in order to help reduce our rediculously high white tail deer population during hunting season. Thats cool that at least you have a bow and a horse, but you need a quarter horse or something similar, they are WAY less spookable, and high spirited. They also dont mind riders holding objects be it a stick, bow, or whatever.
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Post by benjamin on Dec 13, 2010 15:23:15 GMT 3
Wow, It's been way too long since I last logged into this forum Anyway, Hi Greyknight, I live in Western Australia and I know that there are no laws over here that require you to have a permit in order to own a bow. And Im 98% sure it's the same in the eastern states of Australia too. Hi Subu'atai, I agree with hjernespiser. Riding bareback is by far the best and fastest way to improve your riding skills. Especially for something like horseback archery, which requires your upper body and lower body to be totally seperate. If your horse is happy with you shooting from his back, then you're already half way there! Because then all you need to concentrate on is yourself. I have just bought a new pony so I took him out for his first archery session just yesterday. Here's the link for the video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rAKIhaXuJgIf you need any more questions answered I'm more than happy to help also.
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Post by Temüjin on Dec 13, 2010 23:45:03 GMT 3
awesome video!
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Post by Subu'atai on Dec 14, 2010 0:20:57 GMT 3
OMFT! Benjamin you're f--king awesome! Heh, wish you're here in the east coast so you can tutor me haha! Too bad I got the flu, was meant to head down this weekend... oh well, next weekend.
My horse is great really, I just fear falling from height when riding bareback lol. How did you teach yourself?
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Post by benjamin on Dec 14, 2010 5:00:23 GMT 3
Hi Subu'atai, If you have a sand arena that you can practice on then the falls dont hurt... as much But when I was teaching myself to ride bareback, I must have fallen off at least a dozen times! Eventually you get the hang of it and your legs get stronger and then its easy! Just out interest, what sort of bow are you using? You may not realise it, buy there are actually quite a lot of people on your side of the country that could teach you. Do you have facebook? Because there is a group on facebook called horse archery Australia so you could get in touch with people through that if you want. Here's the link: www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=353792220558 Regarding the horseback archery, there is a school in New Zealand that teach it and I got a lot of help from the instructor there, Robert. You could e-mail him if you want. This is his website: www.horsebackarchery.co.nz/I will try to make a video that I can put on youtube, showing the style of shooting that I have learnt to use from watching Kassai's videos. I think I have it right, but there is a limit to how much you can learn from just videos and articles, without being able to talk to someone in person about it. I did a lot - and I mean A LOT of groundwork before I was able to shoot from horseback. You really have to alter your shooting technique from the conventional shooting style that most people use in archery. I will try to explain it better when I make the video, but becasue of the fact that you are cantering forwards, the arrow has a tendency to fall of your knuckle (assuming you are shooting off your knuckle and not a shelf) when you try to shoot. To counter that, you need to rotate your wrist slightly anti-clockwise so that your fingers are pressing the arrow against the bow. A good test is to try to shoot, laying on your back. Hopefully that will help you for now but I will try to do that video today and I'll let you know. Ben.
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Post by Subu'atai on Dec 15, 2010 0:45:36 GMT 3
No sand arena, just hills of grass where my mate is. Oh well, might get some paddings! lol Will be armored head to toe with soft padding not for battle, but for falling off the horse safely! xD
I'm using an assymetrical bow I borrowed from one of my mates actually. I know I know, it's not like the one you are using, but it's the only one available. It does have an arrow rest too and easy to use though the ride is rocky enough the arrow still keeps falling off from time to time. I'll have to work on my archery as well it seems.
I'm an infantryman who only knows guns, who found a new hobby which I'm horrible at lol.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 15, 2010 17:04:08 GMT 3
Great video
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Post by pohjanpoika on Jan 9, 2011 11:09:55 GMT 3
I ride regurly and i do shoot bow. but its hard to find some place to train mountedarchery. I would like to hunt mounted with bow. Anyone here do that? Now I have not read all the posts here but is anyone here good at horsearchery? I cant stear my horse without the reins. Not fully atleast but iam working on it. Anyone got any tips for the training of it? I guess most use the pressure on the shoulder. just that all pressure from the side makes my horse go to the side and not turn no matter if I put my leg/foot at the back midle or shoulder.
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Post by pohjanpoika on Jan 9, 2011 11:23:46 GMT 3
I saw that someone had read Kassais book. Would you recomend it? Does it talk alot about riding teqhinces without reins? Its hard to find much info on that in normal horsebooks.
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Post by pohjanpoika on Jan 9, 2011 11:56:26 GMT 3
I see all this talk about bareback riding, I understand that Kassai works that way (he sure seems to know what he is doing) but why make it harder for yourself? Do you have to do it bareback? Why not just use the saddle with the stirups like always and start to train the horse and yourself for the new things that needs to be learned. The bowshooting makes the riding harder, then it feels just stupid to make it even more difficult and remove the saddle. I dont get the logic. I would never do it bareback when I got a saddle. Okey if you do some bareback training to improve balance but to learn it that way seems strange to me.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 9, 2011 16:52:30 GMT 3
Hi pohjanpoika, welcome aboard
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Post by Subu'atai on Jan 10, 2011 0:58:54 GMT 3
I see all this talk about bareback riding, I understand that Kassai works that way (he sure seems to know what he is doing) but why make it harder for yourself? Do you have to do it bareback? Why not just use the saddle with the stirups like always and start to train the horse and yourself for the new things that needs to be learned. The bowshooting makes the riding harder, then it feels just stupid to make it even more difficult and remove the saddle. I dont get the logic. I would never do it bareback when I got a saddle. Okey if you do some bareback training to improve balance but to learn it that way seems strange to me. Can't exactly argue with the results! Judging by how insane Kassai himself is
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Post by pohjanpoika on Jan 11, 2011 3:37:55 GMT 3
Yeah its hard to argue with the results but Kassai is also a huge talent. It sure would be fun to visit his camp
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