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Post by Subu'atai on Apr 17, 2010 15:20:20 GMT 3
Heh sometimes I wonder if we should both just call ourselves Huns again and just leave it as that. Less headaches yet more parties (and more booze!). We are both proud of our ancestors so why not adopt it again... but NO! Of course, we're humans, and we humans like to complicate things. All cultures evolve and if 2 people from one culture split, in time they won't even understand each other. Same rule with humans on an individual basis.
Grow up with a childhood friend, split for 10 yrs, reunite and you can't even recognise or even talk to them - except for the good o' days. Even within family the changes and differing experiences between each individual, especially after a long time; dictate that things will never be the same again as it was in the past.
However... imagine it though - No more Turks going "Mongols are Turks!", nor Mongols going "Turks are Mongols!", etc etc. Even though such comments all generally come from ignorance alone - and yes we've all been there too, ignorance itself can be quite offensive at times and even if not, rather annoying as hell after a while. I recently saw a Pan-Mongol video which started off pretty good, but then I facepalmed when he claimed Kazakhs are Mongols...
*sigh* Now I got a headache.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 18, 2010 10:45:16 GMT 3
Regarding the genetic issue, this research shows that modern Turks of Turkey are the descendents of the Asian Huns: www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/ancient.shtmlSee, this is why I don't really trust these genetic stuff, because you can get conflicting results. I mean, it all depends on the people you use as samples. Yes, that's for sure I agree.
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Post by ALTAR on Apr 18, 2010 22:39:45 GMT 3
I agree with Ihsan.
Huns were Turks. Nearly all of their clan names, titles were Turkic. Mongols settlement in Mongolia started with Xianbei & Rouran people after Huns. So they weren't native of the region.
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