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Post by w0lf on Dec 20, 2007 2:23:58 GMT 3
Mete Khaan or Modu Shanyu was a great Central Asian warrior. He united many tribes and established an empire. I am searching to find a good source to get the 'NAMES OF THE TRIBES' that were under his command.
Is there anyone who could help me with this...or find a good site or even a book? Please post!
Thanks
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 20, 2007 18:25:34 GMT 3
The tribes and peoples that became under his rule were the Dīnglíng (Ting-ling) 丁零, Jiankun (Chien-k'un, Ancient Qïrghïz), Wūhuán (Wu-huan) 烏桓, Xiānbēi (Hsien-pei) 鮮卑, Wūsūn (Wu-sun) 烏孫, Yuèzhì (Yüeh-chih) 月氏 and Hegu, but the Yuèzhì 月氏 were completely brought under control after his death.
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Post by w0lf on Dec 21, 2007 1:46:41 GMT 3
Thanks a lot brother! Were they all Altaic tribes, specially Yuèzhì people? Or were they mixed?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 21, 2007 17:28:57 GMT 3
You are welcome bro' The Dīnglíng 丁零 and Jiankun were clearly Turkic; the Jiankun are Ancient Qïrghïz, whereas the Dīnglíng 丁零 are the ancestors of Gāochē (Kao-ch'e) 高車 and Tiĕlè (T'ieh-le) 鐵勒 peoples, of whom some of them later emerged as the Toquz Oghuz and Uyghurs. The Wūsūn 烏孫 are not clearly known; they might have been Turkic or something else, but no one is exactly sure. The Wūhuán 烏桓 and Xiānbēi 鮮卑 were two groups that formed the former Eastern Hu (Dōnghú [Tung-hu] 東胡), from whom the later Mongols descended. The Hegu people are also unknown; they might have been Turkic, and some claim them to be the ancestors of the Oghuz people, but I have seen no evidences to proove that. The Yuèzhì 月氏 were highly probably Tokharians (Inde-Europeans of Eastern Turkistan).
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Post by falqon on Oct 3, 2010 17:17:24 GMT 3
h ihsan erkoc you have so much knowledge on this steppes & history i envy you but wish you also had turkish for many misinformed turks who cant read or understand the many important and valuable treasure you have hidden here
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 3, 2010 18:27:50 GMT 3
Greetings Falqon, welcome aboard and thank you very much I wish we had a Turkish forum as well but our host does not allow any non-English parts
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Post by falqon on Oct 3, 2010 18:35:33 GMT 3
This Board Hosted For FREE By ProBoards you mean ProBoards dont allow ?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 7, 2010 12:18:58 GMT 3
Yes, exactly.
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Post by Ardavarz on Feb 3, 2013 2:36:07 GMT 3
I began to wonder recently whether the name of Modu Shanyu could be related to that of the Scythian king Madyes... However they were not only separated by four and a half centuries, but lived in the two opposite ends of the Great Steppe.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 4, 2013 10:48:21 GMT 3
I don't think they would be related at all, because the older Chinese pronunciations of Mo-du 冒頓 resembles the Old Turkic title Baghatur.
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Post by Ardavarz on Feb 5, 2013 1:28:50 GMT 3
Yeah, that is probably right. Chinese writing which only approximates foreign names can be quite misleading in this respect (especially when one deals with ancient texts). Well, it was just a causal association that occured to me...
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Post by bilgechanyu on Oct 13, 2013 0:24:08 GMT 3
Hello guys
In these days I am reading about the History of China and Turks. But I couldn't find any book or article about the Baideng Battle. It is one of the most important battles of ancient centuries. By the way I am not looking for only the background of war. I wanna learn somethings about the weapons and military tactics of Modu Chanyu and the armies. Could you help me?
Thanks for answers. Bilge
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 13, 2013 13:02:47 GMT 3
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Post by bilgechanyu on Oct 14, 2013 0:38:45 GMT 3
Thank you, Ihsan Erkoc
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 14, 2013 14:08:54 GMT 3
You are welcome
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