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Post by balamir on Nov 28, 2006 19:33:21 GMT 3
Can you make me a list of European Hunnic Tribes?Or tell me some of them?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 28, 2006 19:58:48 GMT 3
Nice questions  Fortunately, Ýbrahim Kafesoðlu gave a list of tribes and peoples ruled by the Hunnic Empire, according to histoical sources (like Priscus, Iordanes, P. Diaconus and I. Honorius) in his famous book Türk Millî Kültürü (Turkic National Culture): - Germanics: Ostrogoth (Eastern Goth), Gepid, Turciling, Sueb, Markomann, Quadi, Herui, Rugi, Skir - Slavics: Veneda, Ant, Sklaven - Iranics: Alan, Sarmatian, Bashtarna, Neur, Roxolan (the Alans and Roxolani were tribes of the Sarmatians, but they later broke off and became separate peoples - I'm not very sure from the Roxolani, but I'm sure about the Alans) - Finno-Ugrians: Cheremis, Mordvin, Meria, Veshi, Chud, Est, Vidivari - Turkics: Hun, Bish Oghur (Beshoghur), Altï Oghur, On Oghur, Shar Oghur (Sharagur), Akatir/Akatzir, Sabar However, unfortunately, I could not find any information about the tribes inside the core Hunnic people, sorry  |
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Post by balamir on Nov 29, 2006 10:37:14 GMT 3
No problem,thank you.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 29, 2006 17:03:40 GMT 3
Real names: Maris, Mordavians, Meryans, Vepsians, most Finns who now lives in Finland, Estonians and not know Vidivari...
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Post by Temüjin on Dec 6, 2006 21:46:02 GMT 3
Nice questions Fortunately, Ýbrahim Kafesoðlu gave a list of tribes and peoples ruled by the Hunnic Empire, according to histoical sources (like Priscus, Iordanes, P. Diaconus and I. Honorius) in his famous book Türk Millî Kültürü (Turkic National Culture): - Germanics: Ostrogoth (Eastern Goth), Gepid, Turciling, Sueb, Markomann, Quadi, Herui, Rugi, Skir - Slavics: Veneda, Ant, Sklaven - Iranics: Alan, Sarmatian, Bashtarna, Neur, Roxolan (the Alans and Roxolani were tribes of the Sarmatians, but they later broke off and became separate peoples - I'm not very sure from the Roxolani, but I'm sure about the Alans) - Finno-Ugrians: Cheremis, Mordvin, Meria, Veshi, Chud, Est, Vidivari - Turkics: Hun, Bish Oghur (Beshoghur), Altï Oghur, On Oghur, Shar Oghur (Sharagur), Akatir/Akatzir, Sabar However, unfortunately, I could not find any information about the tribes inside the core Hunnic people, sorry I only know 2 tribes, the Kutrigur and Utrigur who were in a sort of civil war after the death of Attila. the list of Germanic subject people seem wrong, the Markomanni, Quadi etc were annihilated by Marcus Aurelius in the 3rd century (remember the movie Gladiator) already. also, there were Alans fighting for the Romans, so probably there were not as much Sarmatian tribes as suggested by this list... |
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Jul 7, 2008 11:28:24 GMT 3
Yeah, But there were Sarmatian and Alan subjects for sure. Yet many of them migrated and fled westward and played a significant role in the battle of "Cataulonian Feld" and the turning the tide against the Huns in Gallia. And by the way It doesn't seem that Markomannen were annihilated completely in clashes of the 2th century but they incorporated thereafter into Alemmani confederations.
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 21, 2009 23:49:32 GMT 3
oK,Temujin i just got interested,about what you said about the kutrigurs and utrigur,because these were actually proto-bulgarians.Do these tribes took part in Atila's raid across Europe?
And can you tell me if bulgarians took part in European Hun Empire against the Roman Empire and the Visigoths.Many people says yes,but in diferent name.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 22, 2009 0:31:13 GMT 3
They were not under the name Bulgar yet  |
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Post by Asparuh on May 25, 2009 1:23:06 GMT 3
Ok,under what name were they then.Some sources says that they were probably part of the Oghur clan as you Ihsan say so as well.And probably the tribes who integrated into the Attila's confederation were : the Kutrigurs,Utrigurs or the Onoghurs.It's said that the Huns conquered the Bulgars and they became their vasals,so i'm shure the Bulgars followed the Huns on their raid to Europe.The way of logic tells me so.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 25, 2009 1:47:12 GMT 3
They were the Oghurs.
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Post by Asparuh on May 25, 2009 2:01:22 GMT 3
Hey,Ok ,Fine.
I just found more answers.It's clear the Bulgars did followed the Huns under the name of Oghurs.
I found many similar things between Huns and Bulgars.
They had similar Tengri god beliefs and fire whorships.
Traditionally they had the famous dance : Horo
Whatever the scientist claim the Bulgars are descendants of the Huns i would rather believe that or at least we adopted their remainings and the rest went to Hungary,Romania,Turkey and acroos Europe i suppose.
Here are the passages : (They says something about the Sabirs,Khazars and all the rest of the Oghuric-Oghuz tribes)
1.http://groznijat.tripod.com/p_bulgar/p_bulg1a.htm
2.http://groznijat.tripod.com/p_bulgar/p_bulg1b.htm
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Post by MagyarTanhu on Mar 5, 2010 17:49:54 GMT 3
If you manage somehow - I could not find on the internet but have the book in Hungarian, look at the book of: "Béla Szász: A húnok története, Attila nagykirály" |
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Post by Asparuh on Apr 9, 2010 0:47:21 GMT 3
Nice ! I did found which of the Bulgarian tribes followed Attila in his raid in 5 century-It's the Onoghurs.These are the people Khan Asparuh brought with him to create the Danube Bulgaria.
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Fortunately, Ýbrahim Kafesoðlu gave a list of tribes and peoples ruled by the Hunnic Empire, according to histoical sources (like Priscus, Iordanes, P. Diaconus and I. Honorius) in his famous book Türk Millî Kültürü (Turkic National Culture):
