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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 17, 2004 20:54:13 GMT 3
(Originially posted by me at September 25, 2004) ----
Which dynasties, periods and eras in Chinese history do you like?
Mine are:
Han in the 2nd century BC Tang in the early-mid 7th c. AD Jin in the 12th c. Ming in the 15th-16th c. Qing in the 18th c.
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(Originially posted by Lannes at September 26, 2004) ----
Tang 7th Century AD Wei 3rd Century AD Qiang(a tribe) of the late 1st to the early 2nd Century BC
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(Originially posted by Liung-Fu at September 28, 2004) ----
Warring States era. Qin Dynasty. Chu-Han war era. Han Dynasty(especially during Wu-Di of western Han and Ming-Di of eastern Han). Three Kingdom(only like the novel not history). Sui-Tang era. Song, Ming and Qing Dynasties.
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(Originially posted by LoS at September 28, 2004) ----
3rd Century Wei (AD) 1st Century Han (AD)
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Post by Bor Chono on Nov 23, 2005 11:05:40 GMT 3
I hate chinese Their history is only about taking land from nomads-War with steppe Barbarians. They call us BARBARIANS. You should ask a Barbarian a question "Who is BARBARIAN?" For Mongols(A barbarian thinks) chinese are BARBARIANS. For Mongols Barbarian is who eat vegetable (like animals) and who doesn`t drink milk,-people who eat fish, rat, and each other -still so does chinese!(they sell dryed meat of their not born babies in their drugstores!-baby meat is good for health.) Barbarian is people who believe in false gods not in mother nature-people who offend mother nature by cutting trees, and changing river direction to grow something. Barbarian is people who hunt every animal-who have no respect for lower races(Animal races are called lower-for Mongols Dogs & Wolves are 2-nd race after Human=Huns.). Barbarian is people who live in sedentary mud(earth,stone...) houses. Barbarian is not Hun. Above was old thinking of Mongols -Maybe if we still followed this old thinking we still be in Dark age. Now in Mongolia, our nation is going to sink in chinese blood. Many women marry chinese. Many men die because of alcohol. I think Buddism made us weak. Every where mongols are still hated.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Nov 23, 2005 13:22:09 GMT 3
I like Tan dynasty! I think only Tan could be placed in history of the stepps. They where really great and tactics was the best against the nomads. In old times it was consided that 1 Tan soldier could match 3 nomad raiders due to their battle training. New film came out on chineese called "Myth" with Jacky Chang they shows Tan army in battle, KOK Turik army and Koreans. Chineese have a lots of films about Turiks and Tan Dynasty. Hmm Bor Chone! I am Kazakh from Kazakhstan and now i study in China. I studied in Beijing for 1 simester and met a lots of Mongol studen their! I find Mongols very agressive and girls very beautiful. (In Beijing they have three night clubs in Wudakou. "Propaganda" club is occupied by mongols and they usually fight outside of the club and "Halahala" club ocuppied by kazakh and they fight outside that club. Mongols & kazakh managed to fight everyone in Beijing> Koreans, Japanesee, Africans, Russians, Germans, French, Americans, Chineese even the united nation I mean when people from different nation come together. But i still didn't heard that Mongols and kazakh had a good fight. only small drunken fight.) I agree in some ways we are more organazed than they are and respect each other. Looking at this I some times think we have more chance to leave a better life!!!
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 28, 2006 22:58:06 GMT 3
Hehehe Sorry. The film myth is not about the Tang Dynasty its aboit Qin Dynasty and Korean.
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Post by Bor Chono on Jul 9, 2006 6:41:55 GMT 3
I like Tan dynasty! I think only Tan could be placed in history of the stepps. They where really great and tactics was the best against the nomads. In old times it was consided that 1 Tan soldier could match 3 nomad raiders due to their battle training. I think Turks & Uighurs made Tang china powerful. Turks & Uighurs became quite sedentary ppl & liked to trade. They didn`t care other little nomads, they were like good friends with Tang. Ancient china was country of great idea -still does. Chinese idea always was to be number 1, center of world, expand...etc. I think Turks did not had any idea -they just wanted to be rich or inteligent (religious!?). They built temples & cities. Maybe it was their attempt to make new conquered lands their Home!? Huns & Mongols had an idea -to keep their lifestyle for eternity & keep sedentary bastards away from their sacret land/mountains. Great Hunnic Khaan Modun : Land is our root. Do not give a palm of land, Even if God asks. -it also means : If U see land claim it!, do not trust to gods who need temples. Seems like Turks were losing more land to Tang than other nomads did. How they built their military fortresses in distant regions!? I mean Mongolian steppe nomads wasn`t so weak like it was in Tang age as Nomad said. What do U think about these pics?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 10, 2006 0:31:12 GMT 3
I think Turks & Uighurs made Tang china powerful. Turks & Uighurs became quite sedentary ppl & liked to trade. They didn`t care other little nomads, they were like good friends with Tang. Ancient china was country of great idea -still does. Chinese idea always was to be number 1, center of world, expand...etc. I think Turks did not had any idea -they just wanted to be rich or inteligent (religious!?). They built temples & cities. Maybe it was their attempt to make new conquered lands their Home!? Huns & Mongols had an idea -to keep their lifestyle for eternity & keep sedentary bastards away from their sacret land/mountains. The Blue Turks regained their independence in the East after 682 and they kept their traditional lifestyle (especialy with the advices of Prime Minister Tonyuquq). Blue Turks that became sedentary in China were returned back the independent Blue Turkic Qaghanate during the reign of Qapghan Qaghan (691-716) and when they returned to Mongolia, they turned back to their nomadic lifestyle. Great Hunnic Khaan Modun : Land is our root. Do not give a palm of land, Even if God asks. -it also means : If U see land claim it!, do not trust to gods who need temples. Modu was a Chengli Gudu Chanyu, not a Khaan
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Post by Bor Chono on Jul 23, 2006 13:21:46 GMT 3
This was posted by our Qaghan!(in page "Armies of the Tujue") : I found this pic on internet : (Song cavalrymen) U can see that their armor (even horse armor) look same. And this pic shows some asian helmets (there are no Mongol helmets only chinese & japanese!) I think these are Song helmets!. Look at the helmets next to red dot. One thing, why these chinese wear such piece of cloth : -I know that it was used by Zurchins, Tatars & by northern chinese to protect their inner organs from cold. Song is located south, warm/hot? place. Why they also wear it!? Were they dumb? ;D
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Jul 26, 2006 23:19:11 GMT 3
aahhh Tigin, I don't like any of them... Chinese must go to hell. They have hardened everything with their glorious(!) alphabet...
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Post by tengrikut on Jul 27, 2006 15:06:06 GMT 3
aahhh Tigin, I don't like any of them... Chinese must go to hell. They have hardened everything with their glorious(!) alphabet... noo! they must stay in china! if they had gone hell, our anchestors would strave. ;D
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 27, 2006 21:00:43 GMT 3
Perhaps we should not post such offensive things, my friends; especially while you are mods
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Jul 27, 2006 23:36:14 GMT 3
sorry, forgive me mighty qaghan...
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Post by Bor Chono on Jul 31, 2006 10:43:42 GMT 3
aahhh Tigin, I don't like any of them... Chinese must go to hell. They have hardened everything with their glorious(!) alphabet... noo! they must stay in china! if they had gone hell, our anchestors would strave. ;D I`m not sure that our ancestors are in hell!? hahaha...
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Post by Bor Chono on Jul 31, 2006 10:44:15 GMT 3
I`m sure that Boorchi loves female chinese!!! hahaha... ;D
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Post by tengrikut on Aug 1, 2006 23:21:36 GMT 3
noo! they must stay in china! if they had gone hell, our anchestors would strave. ;D I`m not sure that our ancestors are in hell!? hahaha... i didn't mean our ancestors in hell. just think that time that our ancestors' time. if the chineese has gone to hell, the world would become very boring and hard. bec china was a free shop for them ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Aug 2, 2006 6:51:11 GMT 3
Tengrikut I`m not agree with U!. Nomads almost never starved compare to Chinese. They had many livestock to look after & wild animals to hunt. If weather condition is bad U can alway find better places. Chinese are sedentary, they need to stay in one place to grow something -to eat, U just not look after the crop also U need to work on it (=to water...etc). If weather is bad U get nothing, U start to starve -hard life. -Nomdas did not invade China because of food. I think If there were no chinese surely Asia would be totaly different. Yeah... strange customers that always kill the salesmen! ;D
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