|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 5, 2006 6:48:55 GMT 3
I`ll show my Culture  ;D  Mongols think that they have descended from Blue Wolf. In Mongolian steppe there are 2 wolves -Grey Wolf and Brown Wolf(=Human)  Mongols used to call White people as Yellow demons. ;D I mean mongols give names by Hair color or clothing. |
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 5, 2006 6:57:40 GMT 3
This is Mongol dog called BANHAR Huge, slow dog with powerful bite -likes to eat bones  . Can fight with wolves & snow leopards -it is like TANK .  This dog is becoming more rare   It is great sin to kill a dog! -it is equal to Human murder! |
|
|
|
Post by snafu on Jan 5, 2006 9:45:27 GMT 3
No wonder Temujin was afraid of dogs as a boy!
|
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 5, 2006 12:53:02 GMT 3
Why I started from Dog? Because In the beginning Humanity(=Hun) was alone, then it found a trusted friend, THE DOG ;D In Mongolia, human lived more than 800 000 years ago and still living. It is starts with Homo erectus, Neandertals,... Dog: the Mongol name of a dog is ' nokhoi=nohoi '. It is the only non-livestock animal to receive high honor from the Mongols. The Mongolian shepherd dog is is known as the best guard to the livestock and properties of the Mongols. They have courage to fight with the wolves which attack the livestock. The Mongols also train dogs for hunting. The great Genghis Khan had have many hunting dogs and falcons. The Mongols never consider the dogs just as pets. The most admirable character of the dog is its loyalty .  Also 4 eyed(has 2 yellow spots above eye) dog is considered very good guardian dog. Mongols think that with these spots dog can even see spirits. So dog can chase Evil spirits.(actually ancestors of these dogs used to steel eggs, so these spots imitate eyes -protection from bird strike ;D)  But Hubilai khaan used strange skinny dog for hunt ;D |
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 5, 2006 13:59:32 GMT 3
In china, korea, japan,...etc There are 2 stone lions. They say : Lion is a special animal to these(Chinese, korean,japanese...ect) people. A pair of stone lions, a male and a female, can often be seen in front of the gates of traditional buildings. The male lion is on the left with his right paw resting on a ball, and the female on the right with her left paw fondling a cub.  But ;D Where did you saw such female lion with same hair like male? Because they are not Lions ;D In Mongolian folklore there are 2 Black Mongol Banhars called ASAR & BASAR. Female and Male dogs that can quard everything. No monsters, spirit and heros can pass through them, because they are HUGE (-You need to show or hold magical items) |
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 6, 2006 7:06:23 GMT 3
|
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 6, 2006 7:24:43 GMT 3
|
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 6, 2006 7:35:44 GMT 3
In steppe winter is cold & snowy. In summer land is dry, the grass is tall & sharp. To protect their feet, from ancient times mongols wear high boots.  Mongols say : Russians bundle up their head Chinese bundle up their back Mongols bundle up their feet.   (In this pic you can see boots with 8 and 16 pattern) There are boots with 0 pattern -just boots. 8-16 pattern -ordinary boots. 32-64 pattern -for festivals, for rich people, nobles boots. More than 64 ? -Meybe khaan or someone who is supreme ;D |
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 6, 2006 11:31:05 GMT 3
|
|
|
|
Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 8, 2006 19:37:51 GMT 3
Nice thread and great pics! Thanx!  |
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 9, 2006 7:30:56 GMT 3
Mongol women Halha :   Noble Halha women :   Uzumchin :  Buryat :   More Buryat Culture & PIC : www.buryatia.ru/buryats/photo.htmlRich Kalimag women :  Ordos women : the sleeves are wide! I mean influence of chinese culture.  |
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 9, 2006 11:03:27 GMT 3
Modern deels are Freaky! I mean people who call themselves DESIGNER don`t follow old traditions !!! I`m talking about Culture change.   There is something wrong about these deels. I mean the sleeves are wide  . Real nomads(mongols,warriors,horseman,...etc) don`t wear wide sleeved coat. Because, -traditionally it is forbitten. Chinese,japanese(KIMONO),koreans wear wide sleeved coat :   (You see chinese wide sleeved dress) It is forbitten to wear a foreign(=foreign like) dress! Because clothing is symbol of NATION. I mean if you are Turk you should wear TURK Coat and be proud of it. If someone wears foreign clothing he is called traitor . |
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 9, 2006 11:50:35 GMT 3
Wife DEEL : Pointed shouider and stripes on hand symbolizes that she is a warrior and bird. Mongolian folklore say : There was a hard time for Halha mongols, most men were killed in battle, so women took bows and arrows and fought. Halha women were victorious. Maybe you are wondering why Halha mongol women have such big braid.   These 2 braids symbolizes wings of Khan Garid(=Garuda). Garid is a mythological fire bird, ruler of birds and defender of humanity. Garids eat snakes. Ofcourse the King of snakes is (chinese)Dragon. Mongols believe that dragons bring death and disasters. Legend say that Mongols invited Garid to defeat dragons. (You can see that this Buddhist garuda is bigger than adult dragon/=snake with deer horns/ ):   Ofcourse now no one will describe garuda holding a chinese dragon ;D I mean garuda is mostly described as eating a snake, not a dragon.  |
|
|
|
Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 12, 2006 2:29:38 GMT 3
Interesting... I think that Garid/Garuda must have been a Buddhist cultural element rather than original Mongol.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bor Chono on Jan 12, 2006 11:55:47 GMT 3
Interesting... I think that Garid/Garuda must have been a Buddhist cultural element rather than original Mongol. In the very begining I believed it was a Buddhist icon. But I noticed many difference between Garuda and Mongolian Khan garid.  (Tibetian snow Lion Garuda or Mongol banhar like khan Garid) Well Mongols believe that Khan Garid lived in Divangalav age(=also Divangar -means: the most ancient time=before our time). I mean Mongols think that Garids existed before Humanity. Khan Garid is female spirit. But Garuda is male spirit. So what is it and where is it came from? Some scientist believe that Garid is Griffon. Mongolian Gobi is full of Dinosaur bones! Dinosaurs with bird like skull PROTOCERATOPS lived in Central Asia -especially in Mongolian GOBI desert.  (Mongolian stamp)  (JUVENILE PROTOCERATOPS : Late Cretaceous, Found in Mongolia, note bird face and horns) Ancient people didn`t know that animals & creature can become extinct. So they thought that if someone found the bones the animal should be near or they died few years ago. ;D Griffins guard the gold mines in India.  In ; monsters.monstrous.com/griffins.htmThe Griffin was known in Egypt before 3300 BC and is possibly more ancient still.  Pliny believed griffins came from Northern Russia; Aeschylus thought they originated in Ethiopia; and Bulfinch wrote that their native country was India. Herodotus said that legends of griffins came from the Issedonians who lived beyond the Oural Mountains. Biedermann wrote later that it has typological antecedents in ancient Asia, especially in the Assyrian k'rub, which is also the source of the Hebrew cherub. Some say, the griffin is mostly linked with the Amazon, Scythians and Sarmatians, all of whom inhabited Crimea and other regions of modern Ukraine. We mongols have the same culture as Scythians. ;D freaks.monstrous.com/arismapians.htmArimaspians were the one-eyed people of Scythia, who adorned their hair with gold. They were constantly at war with the gryphons(=Griffin) who guarded the gold mines./Ofcouse people who dig land will find bones of ancient animals ;D I mean Arimaspians were fist Archaeologists/ The last Arimaspian was DUVA the blind(Duva sohor). He had one eye on his fore head and could see far as 3 nuudel(=about 20 km) -From SHoM. |
|
;D 
. Can fight with wolves & snow leopards -it is like TANK 
. Real nomads(mongols,warriors,horseman,...etc) don`t wear wide sleeved coat. Because, -traditionally it is forbitten.