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Post by Atabeg on Mar 5, 2007 9:40:46 GMT 3
Yufka was popular amongst teh Turks I geuess I think.
Some of us were semi-nomadic even back in the day Temujin or mabey you just raid a villeage
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Post by Bor Chono on Mar 7, 2007 4:39:28 GMT 3
Elder people eat first. And you have to eat even if your not hungry(family time) Ofcourse old ppl eat first. ;D Sometimes pregnant women(=2 person) who is about to give birth eat first with elders. Elders sit in head of table. Mostly head of table is north side of table or the place opposite to entrence. If U are having family time, right side from head of family is men`s side, left side is women`s side. Guests always sit in right side of a Ger.(such rules are not followed by modern families ) By Mongol tradition : U must drink atleast one cup of tea(or milk) if host/hostess served it to U. If host or hostess didn`t serve U a cup of tea it means U are not welcomed. If U didn`t touch the cup of tea it means U don`t like/trust the family or U came with bad news like U are going to arrest someone or ask for the money that U lend.
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Post by Bor Chono on Mar 13, 2007 10:59:33 GMT 3
Some(sedentary ppl) may think that so called Barbarians(=we) have no table manner. I say Nomads have strict table manner.(maybe these Yosa-s not followed by modern families) By Mongol tradition : It is forbitten to give(=serve)something by left hand. If U wanted to give something use only your right hand.1st. From old times it is considered that the right hand doesn`t transmit bad energy.(I`ve noticed that only few ppl know it) 2nd. Right hand is considered "Strong". I mean stronger than left hand. So things(for exmpl=hot tea) that transmited by right hand can reach safe it`s destination. 3rd. It is called "Respectful manner" to give things by right hand. 4th. Some ppl say "Left is for taking, right hand is for giving" it can be understood as U hold a shield in left hand & sword in right hand. So U recieve(take) hits from left side & (give) strike with right hand.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 13, 2007 21:07:34 GMT 3
Sounds interesting and logical
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Post by tengrikut on Mar 18, 2007 19:26:13 GMT 3
Some(sedentary ppl) may think that so called Barbarians(=we) have no table manner. I say Nomads have strict table manner.(maybe these Yosa-s not followed by modern families) By Mongol tradition : It is forbitten to give(=serve)something by left hand. If U wanted to give something use only your right hand.1st. From old times it is considered that the right hand doesn`t transmit bad energy.(I`ve noticed that only few ppl know it) 2nd. Right hand is considered "Strong". I mean stronger than left hand. So things(for exmpl=hot tea) that transmited by right hand can reach safe it`s destination. 3rd. It is called "Respectful manner" to give things by right hand. 4th. Some ppl say "Left is for taking, right hand is for giving" it can be understood as U hold a shield in left hand & sword in right hand. So U recieve(take) hits from left side & (give) strike with right hand. but i use my left hand more than right how about me? ;D for example if you want me to take a shield and a sword, i will wear the shield on my right arm and use the sword in my left hand ;D
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Post by Atabeg on Mar 18, 2007 23:15:26 GMT 3
there is no nice way to say this ............your doomed
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Post by Bor Chono on Mar 22, 2007 14:54:14 GMT 3
Tengrikut! you-r out-Yasa! ;D
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Post by tengrikut on Mar 28, 2007 16:21:04 GMT 3
Tengrikut! you-r out-Yasa! ;D ok then no problem ;D
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Post by Oorvan on Aug 22, 2008 10:42:25 GMT 3
I have one question about Steppe food (Mongolia or other). How common is it to eat vegetables? Meat is very common, of course. But how much vegetables do steppe people eat? Carrots, lettuce, cucumber? And what about fruit?
When I was few weeks in Mongol Steppe, we ate fruit and vegetable. But only because we took with us from city?!!
Is it possible to grow fruit/vegetable on Steppe?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 22, 2008 22:43:50 GMT 3
Most of our knowledge conserning vegetables in steppe Turkic cuisine comes from Arabo-Iranian geographers and travellers, apart from the Dîwânu Lughât al-Turk and other such lexicons. However, most of these describe the Turks living either in Turkistan or in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, which is known to have a slightly milder climate when compared with Mongolia. The fact that most of the words used for vegetables in Turkic are indeed of Turkic origin, shows us that the Turks were not aliens to vegetables, but most of these words can be found among the Turks who lived in the areas mentioned above. There are also a few records of Turks using agriculture in Mongolia, as can be seen in Chinese sources, as well as from the excavations of Asian Hunnic sites, but due to the climate, it was very much limited, so most of the nomadic Turkic cuisine relied on meat and other animal products.
The scholars I know who have traveled to Mongolia all told me that the soil in Mongolia, as well as the climate and tempratures, are not suitable for growing vegetables.
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Post by Oorvan on Aug 23, 2008 0:58:36 GMT 3
Thank you for your detailed answer. I think summer is very nice period to grow food in the ground. Some steppe are beautiful green in summer!! Perfect for food maybe... But summer is too short I think to grow good vegetable... But maybe on some place they do?? In Khovd province I saw in thise 'fence neighbourhood' one garden which grew some food I think, but did not look very green ha ha!! I think most Mongol use just Meat to eat. I like this way to eat goat: Taste very good!! Without any added spices, just natural taste!! Perfect!!
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 23, 2008 2:10:43 GMT 3
Yes, what you say is exactly the thing my lecturers told me
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