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Post by erdene on Nov 13, 2006 3:55:53 GMT 3
Has tombs of Mongol Khans ever been found???
If so, who???
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Post by Saran on Nov 14, 2006 15:37:55 GMT 3
Has tombs of Mongol Khans ever been found??? If so, who??? I guess none of their tombs has been found, yet. If we can find Batu's or Monkhe's, or maybe some other smaller Khan's tomb it will be a nice discovery. We can make a wonderful tomb museum and brag with it! Isn't it great?
I'm not saying that we should find Great Chinggis' , he should rest reacefully.
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Post by tengrikut on Nov 15, 2006 20:09:36 GMT 3
Has tombs of Mongol Khans ever been found??? If so, who??? I guess none of their tombs has been found, yet. If we can find Batu's or Monkhe's, or maybe some other smaller Khan's tomb it will be a nice discovery. We can make a wonderful tomb museum and brag with it! Isn't it great?
I'm not saying that we should find Great Chinggis' , he should rest reacefully. i think everone should rest in peace. i have a great respect to anchestors. an ordinary man even should sleep in peace too.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 16, 2006 1:36:54 GMT 3
I know you will get angry on me, but I support the excavations of ancient tombs because they provide us with many valvuable information. Just imagine, what would have happened if the kurgans of Pazyryq and Noin Ula were not excavated, or the grave of Bilgä Qaghan?
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Post by kokturk on Nov 16, 2006 2:28:31 GMT 3
In Amasya, Turkey, the mummy of the governor of Ilkhanid Dynasty -Ishbugha Noyan- exists. Maybe there are mummies of some guys from the dynasty, maybe the mummy of Olcayto, the son of Abakha and great son of Hulagu, is somewhere near Amasya.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 16, 2006 3:13:01 GMT 3
But wasn't Öljeytö buried in Sultâniya in Iran?
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Post by kokturk on Nov 16, 2006 20:10:52 GMT 3
But wasn't Öljeytö buried in Sultâniya in Iran? I searched for it today and yes you are right.
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Post by Saran on Nov 17, 2006 9:08:24 GMT 3
Tsagaadai/Zuchi's tomb is in Kazakhstan, right? We have a very small model of that tomb in our Museum of Mongolian National History. It really looks like a Muslim mosque.
I dunno what was in it, however, I'm pretty sure that the tomb was robbed a lot. Any news re this, guys?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 17, 2006 11:29:22 GMT 3
I also saw the model of that tomb. It is in the region of Khwârazm.
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Post by Saran on Dec 26, 2006 6:30:12 GMT 3
I also saw the model of that tomb. It is in the region of Khwârazm. Is it worshipped or neglected? Any news? Thanks! ;D
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 27, 2006 0:10:09 GMT 3
I have no idea, sorry
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Dec 27, 2006 8:40:37 GMT 3
Zuchi's tomb is in Kazakhstan, right? We have a very small model of that tomb in our Museum of Mongolian National History. It really looks like a Muslim mosque. Saran, I am quite amazed you've heard about it. Jochi khan's mausoleum is located in the Jezqazğan region (Central Kazakstan) near the legendary Ulıtaw ("Great mountains"). The architecture of the mausoleum is indeed Muslim. Photos: Info from the tourist website: Mausoleum of Joşı khan. The mausoleum was erected from a red brick on the left bank of Qarakengir river, in 45 km to north-east of the town of Jezqazğan. Local population has a legend that it was the exact place where the eldest son Genghis khan, Joşı khan, perished during the hunt. A mausoleum has a rectangular form, portal with a lancet arch, dome on a many-sided drum, painted with a turquoise glaze. Decorated with fretted and glazed terracotta. Walls inwardly smooth, a floor is laid out with ceramic tiles. There is a date of building on a small tombstone - year 1227.www.jezkazgan.kz/photogallery.htmwww.saryarka.freenet.kz/excurs.htmHere is the 14th century decorative tile from the Jochi khan's mausoleum:
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Dec 27, 2006 8:43:19 GMT 3
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Post by Saran on Dec 27, 2006 9:04:32 GMT 3
^Wow! Thanks for the great info Bawirsaq! I'm so happy to learn that Zuchi is respected there and his mauseleum is safe and well kept. Is it close to Almatyi? I would love to visit it! We have a direct flight between Ulgii and Almatyi.
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Dec 27, 2006 9:35:48 GMT 3
^Wow! Thanks for the great info Bawirsaq! I'm so happy to learn that Zuchi is respected there and his mauseleum is safe and well kept. Is it close to Almatyi? I would love to visit it! We have a direct flight between Ulgii and Almatyi. You're welcome! Qazaqs have a legend and a sad dombıra composition called "Aqsaq qulan" (Lame wild horse) about how Jochi khan died while hunting the while horses (qulan). Here's the dombıra composition: www.atameken.de/download/mp3/kazak/gemischt/aksak_kulan.mp3The legend "Aqsaq qulan": The distance between Almaty and Jezqazghan is more than 800 km. Jezqazghan is in the center and Almaty is in the south-east of the country: Map of Kazakstan .
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