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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 17, 2004 0:24:59 GMT 3
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Post by Bor Chono on Nov 19, 2005 11:11:57 GMT 3
hairstyle is very important for a No+mad. Ancient mongols favorite hairstyle was PUNK like hairstyle. On the top of head it is Punk, but on back it is long. Hair of a man should not be longer than tail of his horse-rule#1. Women are allowed to have longer hair than horse tail, and shamans. Why punk?-symbolizes horse hairstyle. why it must be long?-father horse (strongest horse) has long hair, so long hair gives power (=strengh) called SUR. If you have too much SUR every one will be afraid of you! If you are Bold -it is ok ;D because it is said that bold poeple can feel energies of sky before others. So some mongols(Tatar mongols) shave their forehead. Do not throw your lost hairs anywere. Someone can find it and harm you! So if you lost few hair (human loses 50 hair everyday) just Burn them. So what are you waiting for? shave it ;D ;D ;D
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 20, 2005 17:46:44 GMT 3
Hi Bor Chono, welcome to SHF! Interesting info you gave to us, thanx
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Post by Bor Chono on Nov 21, 2005 9:55:40 GMT 3
Thanks but what is SHF!?
I don`t know about Turks hairstyle? Is there any traditions? We have many. It differs from place to place.
We do not shave new born`s head until it is 3 years age. If the hair grown too much/or become dirty,messed/ mothers cut the hair by their teeth.-another rule. little hair is left on the forehead of a boy. It is because the bone of fore head is very thin. We believe that when young children whose forehead`s bones thin can see spirits.The hair is to protect the mind of little one. And when the bone is grown /adult/ can`t see spirits. Shamans who can see spirits also wear masks or has hair imitated cover on his face. Noble warrior can use masks to protect himself from dark shamans.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Nov 22, 2005 21:13:21 GMT 3
Solders and heroes used to have lond hair! But not like the horse tail! They made it like a rope! Don't now how to expain it! Small ropes like uigur girls do now! around the head! 1) Long hair means power AND gives strenth. 2) Why make in to small ropes so it will not mess around during the riding. 3) It was like the protection! Its difficult to chop the head if you cover you neck with hair made like ropes.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 28, 2005 2:14:59 GMT 3
SHF = Steppe History Forum (didn't you check the name of this forum?) I don`t know about Turks hairstyle? Is there any traditions? We have many. It differs from place to place. Look at first posts in this thread.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Nov 28, 2005 21:51:15 GMT 3
I checked the threads but they I think belong to indians or afgans! Why? Because we never draw faces of people and the looks to arabik to me than nomadic. Secondly woman had their hair coved so it would not get greasy because on the travel where could you fing a water everytime she would want to wash her hair! They didn't changed through time. At the young age girls use to plait their hairs so they could saduce mens and arrange a good marrage! (Girls in nomads families always a guest and its good to give her out! If lucky you could get a good money for her!) Mens looks like gays! I can't imagine a nomad who would give everything for the ride at the high speed, carry such burden on the head. Not logical! Even Khans liked to sprint over the stepps.
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Post by Bor Chono on Nov 29, 2005 7:59:16 GMT 3
Girls in nomads families always a guest and its good to give her out! If lucky you could get a good money for her! Nomads? We mongols are unique among nomads! ;D We don`t sell women. We sell men! Mongols send their sons to families who have daughters. Sons will help in daily work of that family -few months or for few years. This family desides -to marry him with their daughter or not. If young man is (too lazy, has angry manner...) not good for her, he is sent back! If girl is going to leave her family she will go with 10 dress, pot...everything for household(=money)+livestock. Man will prepare almost empty(fireplace and gods) Ger(=Yurt=house) and livestock. Girl`s side will only get a silver or golden cup(poor people can give wooden ;D In ancient time cups were made of human skull!!!). Often men stays near of his family.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 29, 2005 13:34:22 GMT 3
I have great difficulties while trying to understand what you guys write
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Nov 30, 2005 15:59:36 GMT 3
Sorry about that Ishan!!! Its just Nomads and special nomads like Bor Chono in old times and still now in urban areas people don't really take a big deal out of hair. Mens don't have intrest in hair exept finging some usefull way to use hair. But girls are different. Hair means to them something imortant than to us. Girls use hair to be more attractive and to get married. Nomads of the central stepps and arabs have a tradition where we consider girls as guest in the house and try to marry them to the families we think are fit to us! Some times it requies kalim. (its a payment for the daughter could be from just a prezent or ending up with 10000 heads of cattle). Its due to muslim traditions we addopted that requies men to buy himself a wife. But thats a special subject. Mongols or the unique among nomads have different traditions.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 5, 2005 1:30:58 GMT 3
I mean I have difficulties while trying to understand the things you write in English.
Anyway...
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 5, 2005 15:59:37 GMT 3
Mongols or the unique among nomads have different traditions. Our traditions wasn`t unique!!! ;D Before Muslim and Christianity our traditions were spread all over the world-from Europe to North America. I think these religions change very foundation of culture. For example : In Muslim religion it is forbidden to wear clothing with animal & human image, it is called BARBARISM . In Christianity : Jesus hate magicians and shamans -so says Church . We used to worship women goddesses. But new religions are Man`s religion.
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Post by tengrikut on Mar 2, 2006 12:32:30 GMT 3
Girls in nomads families always a guest and its good to give her out! If lucky you could get a good money for her! Nomads? We mongols are unique among nomads! ;D We don`t sell women. We sell men! Mongols send their sons to families who have daughters. Sons will help in daily work of that family -few months or for few years. This family desides -to marry him with their daughter or not. If young man is (too lazy, has angry manner...) not good for her, he is sent back! If girl is going to leave her family she will go with 10 dress, pot...everything for household(=money)+livestock. Man will prepare almost empty(fireplace and gods) Ger(=Yurt=house) and livestock. Girl`s side will only get a silver or golden cup(poor people can give wooden ;D In ancient time cups were made of human skull!!!). Often men stays near of his family. It's the same for us, Tatars. Also for Turks
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Post by Bor Chono on Apr 21, 2006 8:06:25 GMT 3
One of Mongolian hairstyles : ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on May 19, 2006 8:53:56 GMT 3
Hey! What is going on here? A. Tigin`s pic Uighurs hairstyle B.Japanese hairstyle C.Chinese hairstyle.
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