Turks in World War II Sept 7, 2007 1:15:18 GMT 3
Post by Baysonqur on Sept 7, 2007 1:15:18 GMT 3
The truth is that Russia now is a multiethnic state, where a lot of people of different ethnicities live with complicated history. But I, as well as my farther consder this land our fatherland, the same as many other Tatars, Bashkirs etc.
multiethnic state... thats also what Chinese claim.
You shouldn't forget that Russia is in fact a political successor of the Golden Horde. And role of Turks and particularly Tatars in the Russian Empire was enormous.
thats bullnuts, Russia is not sucessor of the Golden Horde, Russia conquered the sucessor states of the Golden Horde.
Concerning the Central Asia, yes, Russian imperialists did a lot of bad things. But again, it wasn't always black and white, like you think. And secondly, Russians didn't plan total extermination, assimilation and enslavization as Nazist did.
it is you who sees history as black and white. imagine if your grandfather had descided its best for fatherland to liberate it from Soviet Yoke and fought in the Turkestan Legion, i wonder if you would still say the same thing.
In fact Russian empire, like Ottoman empire was a truly multi ethnic state.
it is YOU who want Kurd independence! now you contradict yourself...
Concerning the Ukrainian national movement, it's also very complicated. But you should note that it was spread only in the Western Ukraine. Why? Because it was a result of the communist policies in the Western Ukraine like collectevization, atheism etc. BS. All the rest of Ukraine already experienced that much earlier.
the Ukrainian National Army was not limited to western Ukraine, in fact western Ukraine was strongly supporting the Axis. the UNA operated in the heart of Ukraine.