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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 21, 2006 0:08:46 GMT 3
I agree, even the currency and the phone-car license codes are the same whereas you do not have to have a passport to go to TRNC from Turkey. TRNC is like a province of Turkey
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Post by raapi on Nov 21, 2006 1:30:04 GMT 3
I would prefer to see it united again (after all a Turkish Cypriot designed the southern flag!), but if they don't unite then they should fund a proper infrastructure, like own money etc etc.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 21, 2006 1:50:55 GMT 3
Reason no. 1: China Reason no. 2: Russia Agree .
The only independent Mongol state is not as powerful as Turkey, and the Mongols are very few, estimated some 8 millions in total (2.8 millions in Mongolia, 3.5 millions in China and the rest are in Russia, USA etc). We are economically weak, and our economy is somehow dependent on China, so sad . There are actually many Mongols who support the idea of Pan Mongolism, like me. But it's not really possible in reality. We dream of one big Mongol state with some 8 million people all united and love each other dearly, taking our land back from China and Russia Well, compare how divided Finnic nations are: Even worse situation what you have.
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Post by Saran on Nov 21, 2006 4:46:01 GMT 3
Pan-Mongolism refers to uniting the people and the lands right??? If so, I think its never going to happen with a dragon breathing down our backs and a bear blocking our path. Why not just bring them to Mongolia... our land is big enough to accommodate them all. Develop our economy and make Mongolia an attractive place to live. I just can't agree with bringing all those who claim themselves as Mongols. There are lots of mixtures with Chinese, Russians etc , there should be a good filter if we take them all back... We should see their family tree etc ;D
Mongolia is already an attractive place to live for those who have the heart and brain for Mongolia. Loads of Koreans, Chinese, Russians and Vietnams come to live in Mongolia, why? Because, Mongolia's very attractive place to live. Taking our land back is more important, I think. Remember what our Great Khan said "Never give a piece of land even to the God". Then we can decide whom we can invite and live together.
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Post by erdene on Dec 12, 2006 15:07:35 GMT 3
I don't agree with filtering........there was no racial selection in the past why should there be one now??? loyality is all that matters right???
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Post by Temüjin on Dec 12, 2006 20:42:19 GMT 3
i agree, that was the way of Chinggis Khaan and indeed most Stepep rulers.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 13, 2006 2:23:42 GMT 3
Well, sometimes foreign-blood can stop your loyalty.
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Post by erdene on Dec 13, 2006 2:51:10 GMT 3
I believe that foreign blood can also make that bond even stronger.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 13, 2006 3:09:16 GMT 3
I believe that foreign blood can also make that bond even stronger. Well, I know in my country's history that those who have foreign blood, they have always been more treacheroys. That's why I don't consider half-Finns to Finns if that other half, or sometimes even 1/32 part, is from non-related nation.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 13, 2006 23:02:11 GMT 3
That is called racism, you know.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 14, 2006 1:28:48 GMT 3
That is called racism, you know. Yes it is. But I'm not here to spread anything. I just told my personal views. And I call that preservationism of my people. And thanks to that mentality, my nation is still alive and we did not melt to other nations.
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Post by temur on Feb 25, 2007 18:30:15 GMT 3
I totally agree with you. That's why America is the most strongest nation of the world. You are a reasonable Mongol brother who really do something for Mongolia and it's peoples. give you a positive point, and give Saran a negative one. In fact, there are lot of things need our Mongols to learn from other countries. And it's also important to introduce many outstanding scientists to Mongolia. Return to reality, we have to establish a complete system of industry.(from textile to steel making) I believe that foreign blood can also make that bond even stronger.
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Post by PostScriptum on Mar 6, 2007 10:58:44 GMT 3
Pan-Mongolism would sure sound like music to many ears, but there are problems. Most of the "greater" Mongolian nation hasn't had a prolonged common history. There's not much bond around at a level other than blood.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 7, 2007 1:04:46 GMT 3
Hello PostScriptum, welcome to SHF
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Post by PostScriptum on Mar 7, 2007 3:04:25 GMT 3
Hey Tigin, really appreciate your welcoming. Splendid idea setting up a forum like this. Don't know too much outside of Mongolian history, but will gladly try and contribute once in a while.
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