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Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 12, 2006 20:19:58 GMT 3
It is proven that all jews are genetically related.
Jews nearest relatives are kurds, armenians, partly gypsies/roma and pashtuuns.
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Post by Atabeg on Dec 13, 2006 9:24:36 GMT 3
The people you sumed up are all people of the 'Indo_european' race and last time I checked Jews were from Semetic origin.
jews, arabs, and alot more who do not exist anymore like Assyrans and sumerians.
so the jewsz and the arabs are eachothers biggest enimy and geneticly the closest related
verinen paroni I bet you read the article about that the kurds so some semitic genes. It also says in that same article due to the northern semitic peoples like syrians.
but of course I'm speaking of the original peoples
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 13, 2006 23:11:03 GMT 3
Let us talk about the names of the Saka.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 14, 2006 1:34:14 GMT 3
OK, just one thing to Atabeg Shad: Sumerians were not semitics. Most scientists have proven that original Sumerians were not semitic.
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Post by sharrukin on Dec 15, 2006 7:19:19 GMT 3
But they were certainly assimilated by Semitics.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 15, 2006 17:02:56 GMT 3
But they were certainly assimilated by Semitics. Yes later when akkadians came.
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Post by sharrukin on Feb 1, 2007 9:54:44 GMT 3
Babylonian - Gimiri
Elamite - Shakka
explanation: The Behistun inscription of Darius I was written in three languages - Persian, Elamite, and Babylonian. Where the Persian has Saka, and the Elamite has Shakka, the Babylonian has Gimiri. This was obviously the name of the Cimmerians, but from the point of the view of the southern Babylonians, there was no distinction between Cimmerians and Scythians. Either that or the Babylonians just simply continued to use the old name for the land now inhabited by the Scythians, in the same way that the Persians used the name Armina, (Elamite, Arminiya), while the Babylonians used the older name Urashtu for the land of Armenia.
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Feb 6, 2008 0:47:19 GMT 3
Saka in Persian is pronounced /'Sæ.ka/ plural Sakayan or Sakaha/'Sæ.ka.yan/ tit si also said taht the ancient province of Sistan was named after them "Sakestan". But it is today matter of controvorsy that these lost iranian peoples may had called themselves something in a different way, however the above-mentioned names are names given to them by their neighbours.
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Post by Alanus on Apr 27, 2010 5:38:24 GMT 3
Here are a couple more from Ptolomy (if I'm not repeating them from earlier in the thread):
the Sacaraucae, situated between the Caspian and Aral. the Sacaseni, located just south of the Caucasus along the Cyrus River in Iberia.
According to Alberto Siliotti-- in the 5th century BC, the Saka Tigrakhauda were to the east of Syr Daria (Oxus, I think).
There is the Indic variation, the Sakya. Some researchers claim that Gautama Buddha was a Saka. His early monks referred to him as "Sakyamuni," ie "the Saka priest." We know that some Saka tribes invaded India. (Usually a little later) But, hey! Maybe.
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Post by dmohammed on Jun 5, 2014 16:01:42 GMT 3
very nice. thanks
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Post by Jan Kamola on Aug 10, 2014 12:26:16 GMT 3
Dear Sirs, Vowels do not count. In the same single large village worldwide they are pronouneced differently on its different ends. Consonannts count althought they also undergo sound shifts. Saka, Scythians etc all can be written as prefix+S..K..+suffix. As far as I am conserned +S..K..+ refers to Ukrainian SKy+taltssi cognate of SKYDATY ie. throw away and cognate of primordial KYDATY to throw. Family or nest of lexemes proves this is not coincidence. Forget about Persian and similar languagess. Scythian kings had Persian names just a fad. Names of British royalty i.e. Elisabeth or John do not prove that they were Jewish. I am a 74 year old American from Greenwich CT and now for 5 years expatriate or scythian living in Ukraine please respond to my email camoh@localnet.com
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Post by hjernespiser on Aug 11, 2014 5:01:19 GMT 3
Oh I see. Just like SKATER, SKYDIVER, SKIER, ESCARGOT, and SYKTYVKAR.
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Aug 25, 2014 12:41:47 GMT 3
They had Persian names?
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Post by sakawr on Sept 26, 2014 5:54:42 GMT 3
ashkata - original name of the (western) sakas, used by themselfs
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