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Post by nisse on May 28, 2007 18:45:33 GMT 3
how many are the kazakhs now in kazakhstan, isnt there a big russian minority
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Post by ALTAR on Jun 15, 2007 1:31:36 GMT 3
Nazarbayev:I have how many Qazaqs in Turkey friend? Turgud Özal:There are 70 Million(population of Turkey),they sent you their "hi". This dialog was between Nazarbayev and Namık Kemal Zeybek (ex-culture minister of Turkey, founder of Khoja Ahmad Yesevi University)
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Post by ALTAR on Jun 15, 2007 1:36:22 GMT 3
According to *Kayyum Kesici, estimated Kazak population rate in Kazakhstan was % 52 for 2004(russkies and other slavs are % 32). In 2025 Kazakhs will be % 65 with this increase rate *writer of this book
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Jun 26, 2007 8:45:51 GMT 3
Şapan – richly decorated traditional Kazak robe This is an authentic şapan from 19 century. Note the high diversity of design and color, which is rarely found in today's şapans.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 26, 2007 20:02:27 GMT 3
Very nice
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Post by erdene on Oct 4, 2007 0:07:38 GMT 3
Over the summer holidays, I visited Bayan-olgii briefly.......fasinating place...truely different from the rest of Mongolia. I felt as though I was in a different country. Every where i heard people speaking Kazakh......some kazakhs looked totally different, suppose its the turkic look. The officials all spoke good Mongolian but everywhere else, i.e shops, hotel staff, etc spoke little Mongolian. There were loads of Kazakhs from kazakhistan in our hotel, they're building a cultural centre there...all financed by Kazakhistan. Found that most of the officials graduated in Almaty and that many go to Xinjang, they said their language is the same there, infact they said the Uigurs speak the purest form of their language...is it kazakhs or Turkic??? Mongolian Kazakhs use alot of Mongolian words, Kazakhistan kazakhs use alot of russian words etc etc etc... Might learn kazakh...seems useful Definitely worth a second visit....sry for rambling on abit....have no time!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 13:01:57 GMT 3
infact they said the Uigurs speak the purest form of their language...is it kazakhs or Turkic??? I could answer this for you but I don't understand the question. Are you saying the Uygurs speak the purest form of Kazak? It doesn't make sense.
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Post by erdene on Oct 4, 2007 14:30:56 GMT 3
Yes they said they could understand eachother perfectly...and that they speak the purest form, not corrupted by any other language. So I understood that they speak Kazakh as well???
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Oct 5, 2007 7:25:39 GMT 3
Well, Uyghurs don't speak Kazak. What that person probably meant was that the Kazaks in East Turkistan (Xinjiang) speak the purest form of Kazak language, not mixed with neither Mongolian, nor Russian.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2007 11:44:11 GMT 3
Yes they said they could understand eachother perfectly...and that they speak the purest form, not corrupted by any other language. So I understood that they speak Kazakh as well??? In areas where Kazaks and Uygurs live side by side, you'll find a lot of Uygurs who speak Uygur and Kazak, or can atleast just understand Kazak, and a lot of Kazaks who also speak both. But in areas where there are no Kazaks or very few then the Uygurs don't know Kazak. If an Uygur doesn't know any Kazak then he can't understand Kazak perfectly. They may understand about 50%-70% if they speak slow and be able to understand the topic, but definetly not perfectly, unless they know the Kazak language or are atleast used to hearing it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2007 11:45:07 GMT 3
What that person probably meant was that the Kazaks in East Turkistan (Xinjiang) speak the purest form of Kazak language, not mixed with neither Mongolian, nor Russian. Is this true?
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Oct 7, 2007 5:15:07 GMT 3
No, I don't agree. In villages, Kazaks in Kazakstan speak perfect language, but in cities and urban areas there's some Russian admixture among the populace (some words & phrases used unconsciously). In radio & television, they also use the pure literary language, with no admixtures. I had Kazak classmates from East Turkistan. They spoke very good language, just like in Kazakstan villages.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2007 11:46:52 GMT 3
If someone wanted to study the real Kazak language, with as little foreign words as possible, would they be better off studying in Kazakistan or in E.T.? If someone studies Kazak in Kazakistan would they teach the pure form or would they teach it with all the Russian words?
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Oct 9, 2007 5:56:00 GMT 3
I believe there is no difference whether you learn the language in ET or in KZ. You would be understood anywhere.
As for European words (which came thru Russian), they're mostly used for technical terms.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 8:37:27 GMT 3
Yea I know they're both understandable with eachother, but if someone wanted to study Kazak and learn it in it's purest form with the least amount of Russian or European words, which country would be better to study in?
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