Turkic peoples in Mongolia

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Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 11, 2006 15:27:05 GMT 3

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Post by raapi on Sept 11, 2006 15:27:05 GMT 3

Although only Kazakhs and perhaps a small number of Tuvans are the only Turkic speaking peoples in Mongolia today, there are many Mongol speakers who are of Turkic descent. They are found mainly in Northern and Western Mongolia.

Turkic Speakers

Tuvan: Around 1,500 in Tsengel area of Bayan Olgiy aimag (province).
Kazakh: Around 150,000 mostly in Bayan Olgiy aimag.

Mongolian Speakers

Darkhad: Turkic descent; about 15,000 in Khuvsgul aimag.
Khoton: Turkic descent; about 6000 in Uvs aimag.
Myangad: Turkic descent; about 5000 in Khovd aimag.
Uriankhai: Also known as Tuvans; about 21,000 in the Mongol Altai Nuruu mountain in Khovd and Bayan-Ulgiy aimags.

Population of Aimags with folk who are Turkic or of Turkic descent.

Bayan-Ölgiy - 91,068
Hövsgöl (Khuvsgul) - 119,063
Uvs - 90,037
Khovd (Hovd) - 86,831

Click to enlarge

Sources:
www.statoids.com/umn.html
www.mongolianembassy.us/eng_about_mongolia/land_and_people.php

Tuli kokko, iliman lintu, havukka, tuolt’ tuulten päältä, litti lintu, syöksy sääksi, sinitaivon selänteiltä.

Siivet sil’ ol’ suuremmoiset, hövhenkarvat hurjanlaiset, nokkanuoli kovin kopra, silmäpari salamoiva.
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Came the eagle, bird of sky from the winds, bird flew from the blue sky.

It had wings wonderful, feathers so powerful, beak the toughest, eyes like lightning.

Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 12, 2006 8:35:31 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2006 8:35:31 GMT 3 What about Altay and Hakas Turks? They're right there by Mongolia, so I assume there should be atleast a small population of them in Mongolia. If not, then I guess maybe they have some how been assimilated into Mongols.

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Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 12, 2006 12:52:50 GMT 3

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Post by raapi on Sept 12, 2006 12:52:50 GMT 3

As far as I know the Hakas and Altay Turks do not spill over the Mongolian border in large numbers at all - not enough to account for a significant population.

But if you look under the 'Uriankhai' (Uranhay) of my above post you'll see they are also known as Tuvans - I think they also include the small number of Mongolian-speaking Altayans who live in Hovd and Bayan Ölgiy. Uranhay is a kind of ethnic umbrella term for what are essentially Kazakhs too.

As for Hakas Turks I can't find any demographic stats indicating their presence, possibly they're just too few to register.

Tuli kokko, iliman lintu, havukka, tuolt’ tuulten päältä, litti lintu, syöksy sääksi, sinitaivon selänteiltä.

Siivet sil’ ol’ suuremmoiset, hövhenkarvat hurjanlaiset, nokkanuoli kovin kopra, silmäpari salamoiva.
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Came the eagle, bird of sky from the winds, bird flew from the blue sky.

It had wings wonderful, feathers so powerful, beak the toughest, eyes like lightning.

raapi Tarqan Hello Posts: 90	Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 12, 2006 12:57:37 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by raapi on Sept 12, 2006 12:57:37 GMT 3 I found a map of the province of Govĭ-Altay, I was unaware there's a province named after them.
	Tuli kokko, iliman lintu, havukka, tuolt’ tuulten päältä, litti lintu, syöksy sääksi, sinitaivon selänteiltä. Siivet sil’ ol’ suuremmoiset, hövhenkarvat hurjanlaiset, nokkanuoli kovin kopra, silmäpari salamoiva. --- Came the eagle, bird of sky from the winds, bird flew from the blue sky. It had wings wonderful, feathers so powerful, beak the toughest, eyes like lightning.

Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 13, 2006 8:16:03 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2006 8:16:03 GMT 3 Post that map again, it's not showing up.

raapi Tarqan Hello Posts: 90	Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 17, 2006 14:13:34 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by raapi on Sept 17, 2006 14:13:34 GMT 3 Are you sure? right click where it ought to be and select view.
	Tuli kokko, iliman lintu, havukka, tuolt’ tuulten päältä, litti lintu, syöksy sääksi, sinitaivon selänteiltä. Siivet sil’ ol’ suuremmoiset, hövhenkarvat hurjanlaiset, nokkanuoli kovin kopra, silmäpari salamoiva. --- Came the eagle, bird of sky from the winds, bird flew from the blue sky. It had wings wonderful, feathers so powerful, beak the toughest, eyes like lightning.

H. İhsan Erkoç Qaghan Qaghan of the Steppe History Forum Posts: 7,191	Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 17, 2006 15:32:57 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 17, 2006 15:32:57 GMT 3 I can view it.
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BAWIR$AQ Iltäbär Sweet Qazaq Donut Attan! Alaş! Arwaq! Posts: 661	Turkic peoples in Mongolia Sept 18, 2006 7:06:43 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 18, 2006 7:06:43 GMT 3 Map of ethnic groups in Mongolia www.chriskaplonski.com/images/ethnicmap_med.jpg

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Turkic peoples in Mongolia May 14, 2007 3:11:15 GMT 3

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Post by karakhan on May 14, 2007 3:11:15 GMT 3

there is the Tsaataan, Turkic reindeer breeders. I think they number less than 1,000. but they are famous for their reindeers. Unfortunately some non Tsaataan people have been posing as reindeer breeders in order to cash in on the tourism.

H. İhsan Erkoç Qaghan Qaghan of the Steppe History Forum Posts: 7,191	Turkic peoples in Mongolia May 14, 2007 20:07:32 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 14, 2007 20:07:32 GMT 3 Hello Karakhan, welcome to SHF!
	Nomad, rider of the ancient east Nomad, rider that men know the least Nomad, where you come from no one knows Nomad, where you go to no one tells - Iron Maiden, "The Nomad"

karakhan Är Posts: 14	Turkic peoples in Mongolia May 15, 2007 23:28:51 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by karakhan on May 15, 2007 23:28:51 GMT 3 ^thanks, did I meet you from CHF? I'm sure Yihesan is a member here pics of the Tsaatan

H. İhsan Erkoç Qaghan Qaghan of the Steppe History Forum Posts: 7,191	Turkic peoples in Mongolia May 15, 2007 23:59:31 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 15, 2007 23:59:31 GMT 3 Hehe yes, I am Yihesan
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naaya Är Posts: 37	Turkic peoples in Mongolia Jul 23, 2007 0:11:35 GMT 3 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by naaya on Jul 23, 2007 0:11:35 GMT 3 what is the diffrence between turik-mongol and mongol.. besides religion
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