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Post by mamluk on May 14, 2011 12:36:34 GMT 3
Assalamu galaykum to All Naimans and to Members here...
I am also from Naiman tribe, and i live in china, on the west part of China, which borders with Kazakhstan, we are Kazakh nation. and 1,500,000 Naiman tribe live in China, All kazakhs, and the Naiman Take up almost 60% of Kazakh in China. my tirbe is from Kizay, Matay branch of Naiman, and our populaion about 60-70% of the total naimans in China.
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Post by mamluk on May 14, 2011 12:43:27 GMT 3
through my brothers investigation in Uzbekistan, there are a lot Naimans in Uzbekistan, too. but the local uzbek government push then not to tell their tribe, try to delete tribal life, for their own benefit. and the naimans said in Uzbekistan, the great Timur Empire founder Amir-Tumir is Naiman.
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Post by mamluk on May 14, 2011 21:00:11 GMT 3
i am naiman tribe of kazakh people, there are 1,500,000 naimans in china, take up 60% of the kazakh nation....
and kizay tribe almost 600,000 .
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 15, 2011 4:00:38 GMT 3
According to historical chronicles, Timur was from the Barulas tribe of the Mongols.
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Post by easternroc on Dec 1, 2011 11:22:13 GMT 3
Our family have a extremely old fair tale saying that Pakistan and Afghanistan region have our blood brothers who went there to conquer the land during Gengkis Khan's rule. My friend is Pashtuns. Long time ago he explained that he is desdendent of great leader of whole Afghanistan and India. And Mongol looking people is already there to stay with them for thousand of years. Not sure if they are Naiman.
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Post by mamluk on May 4, 2013 4:28:34 GMT 3
According to historical chronicles, Timur was from the Barulas tribe of the Mongols. here is controversy, that today's mongol are "hand made" nation by Russian for political reason. before 1911, they "mongols" call themselves by tribes such as kalmak, oyrat, kalka etc, not mongol. mongol name was forced to use by russian, then after years they used to that name.
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Post by mamluk on May 4, 2013 4:30:52 GMT 3
Our family have a extremely old fair tale saying that Pakistan and Afghanistan region have our blood brothers who went there to conquer the land during Gengkis Khan's rule. My friend is Pashtuns. Long time ago he explained that he is desdendent of great leader of whole Afghanistan and India. And Mongol looking people is already there to stay with them for thousand of years. Not sure if they are Naiman. the ginghkan spoked in turk language, not today's "mongol" language. todays mongol manchu-related nation. oh, may be these naiman same the naimans in china, but in kazakhstan also 3 million naimans.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 4, 2013 14:31:56 GMT 3
Of course not. What nonsense is this?
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Post by mamluk on May 5, 2013 13:34:06 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 6, 2013 10:49:20 GMT 3
Meh, just a bunch of nationalist nonsense.
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Post by mamluk on May 7, 2013 12:52:38 GMT 3
Meh, just a bunch of nationalist nonsense. you are not sure, you have to consider them, not just by saying "nationalist bla bla - the soviet colored word...", you can not "steal the bells by shutting your ear...", should consider and investigate then thoroughly, it requires a lot work of research. you know only a half drop of something...
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Post by hjernespiser on May 7, 2013 19:39:32 GMT 3
I agree that you should investigate thoroughly, which is why you need to look at the neighbors of the Mongols and delve into their history and linguistics. I also agree with Ihsan in that it is usually a waste of time and effort to respond with anything other than "just a bunch of nationalist nonsense".
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 8, 2013 11:17:39 GMT 3
you are not sure, you have to consider them, not just by saying "nationalist bla bla - the soviet colored word...", you can not "steal the bells by shutting your ear...", should consider and investigate then thoroughly, it requires a lot work of research. you know only a half drop of something... We don't need such nationalist nonsense in our forum. And how dare you judge my level of knowledge?
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Post by jawedfatehi on May 23, 2016 7:10:01 GMT 3
Hi I am from parwan province of afghanistan and I am from naiman nation but I dont know about my nation I requst the name of any hestorical book about naimans
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