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Post by Yazig on Apr 28, 2012 21:27:27 GMT 3
I've been thinking that maybe I could make a costume for the archaeological iniciations. Ya know, for them kidz... But serious archaeologists will be there as well so I want to make it look more serious. Are there any depictions of Attila with his outfit or do you know some good reconstructions? I wanted to make a turko-mongolian-sarmatian hybrid costume. I am not sure if that's a good idea. What do you think?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 29, 2012 0:05:00 GMT 3
Angus McBride has drawn Attila in that manner before, I guess you have seen it already:  |
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Post by Yazig on Apr 29, 2012 18:17:33 GMT 3
Angus McBride has drawn Attila in that manner before, I guess you have seen it already: No. That idea just went through my mind. I will surely read this book. Thank you very much  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 30, 2012 18:01:44 GMT 3
You are welcome |
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Post by Yazig on Apr 30, 2012 18:56:13 GMT 3
Well my first impression was. d**n, this book is really good. The only weird thing I noticed was actually the picture with Attila. He looks like a regular horse archer to me. I wanted to actually add the sarmatian scale armor or the lamellar armor to the costume. The trousers and boots look ok, I would only add some ornamentation. I would replace the cap with a helmet and maybe a mask. I am not sure about the metal mask though.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 1, 2012 14:28:30 GMT 3
Hmm did the Huns use masks? I thought it was a later innovation.
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Post by Yazig on May 1, 2012 19:10:37 GMT 3
I need to get some more info about it. It is very difficult to make a reconstruction of Attila and actually a leader of nomadic tribes. But it is very likely that their clothes were made from more quality material, rare gemstones and ornamentation were used as well. I believe he wore some special armor when he went "to battle" maybe lamellar but I am not sure. The helmet or crown is a mystery to me though. I've seen depictions of Attila with a crown but those are european and he doesn't even look there like a hun.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 2, 2012 9:51:33 GMT 3
Well we have plenty of visual and descriptive material on the clothing and armament of nomadic Turkic peoples starting from the 6th century, but it's a bit lesser before that century, including the Huns.
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Post by Yazig on May 2, 2012 13:05:42 GMT 3
Yes that seems logical. But how did they protect themselves? Surely they didn't use only horse archery.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 2, 2012 19:39:40 GMT 3
The Chinese chronicle Hanshu has records of Xiongnu riders wearing armor and helmets, but it doesn't specify which type they wore.
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Post by Yazig on May 2, 2012 20:55:05 GMT 3
The Chinese chronicle Hanshu has records of Xiongnu riders wearing armor and helmets, but it doesn't specify which type they wore. That's unfortunate but at least we know that they used it. Noin Ula contains chinese items. So some chinese influence may have occured in warfare as well. |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 3, 2012 10:13:06 GMT 3
And vice versa as well. The Chinese in the northern frontier of the country were always under heavy Steppe military influences, and due to the constant state of warfare, from time to time they had to modify their military along the lines of Steppe warfare.
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Post by Yazig on May 3, 2012 10:28:21 GMT 3
And vice versa as well. The Chinese in the northern frontier of the country were always under heavy Steppe military influences, and due to the constant state of warfare, from time to time they had to modify their military along the lines of Steppe warfare. Yes that is true. I've read a book about central asian art and nomads influenced their neighbouring empires with that as well. |
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