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Post by Temüjin on Apr 8, 2011 23:29:41 GMT 3
Avars are still a big mystery. today, we know quite a good deal about Scythians, Sarmatians, Huns (more or less), Bulgars, Magyars and the following Steppe tribes, but relatively little about Avars.
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Post by Ardavarz on Apr 9, 2011 22:59:07 GMT 3
Indeed. It seems there were at least two different people that were called "Avars" in early Middle Ages and I am not sure who was who. It is not clear also if the modern Avar people in Daghestan has anything to do with historical Avars.
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Post by benzin on Apr 11, 2011 11:21:18 GMT 3
Its an interesting question. Its only my theory but, Kalmyk means in mongolian the ones who left behind. Avar could mean the same in Hunnic, therefore its possible the name can be used for several tribes who stayed when the most of the people wandared elsewhere.
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Post by ancalimon on Apr 12, 2011 4:55:59 GMT 3
Its an interesting question. Its only my theory but, Kalmyk means in mongolian the ones who left behind. Avar could mean the same in Hunnic, therefore its possible the name can be used for several tribes who stayed when the most of the people wandared elsewhere. Kalmış means the same thing in Turkish too. Avar means those who are going to raise hell in Turkish (I think) Also Persian load "avare" means those wandering around aimlessly.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 13, 2011 15:08:52 GMT 3
Avar means those who are going to raise hell in Turkish (I think) How did you reach such a conclusion? There was probably no concept of hell among Turkic peoples before the contacts with Buddhism.
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Post by ancalimon on Apr 13, 2011 16:12:53 GMT 3
Avar means those who are going to raise hell in Turkish (I think) How did you reach such a conclusion? There was probably no concept of hell among Turkic peoples before the contacts with Buddhism. I meant who are going to pick a fight... or something like that.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 13, 2011 23:48:18 GMT 3
Hmm I dunno, I don't remember.
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Post by ancalimon on May 2, 2011 13:18:31 GMT 3
Any link between the Greeks and the Juanjuan ?
IONIAN > JUANJUAN > YUNAN ?
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Post by benzin on May 2, 2011 13:49:58 GMT 3
Well I doubt so, but the legends says that the son of Attila, Csaba (Tsaba) were running straight to Greece with his men after the Hunnic empire fall apart.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 3, 2011 13:40:35 GMT 3
Any link between the Greeks and the Juanjuan ? IONIAN > JUANJUAN > YUNAN ? No way. Those names appeared in different regions in different times.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 3, 2011 13:40:53 GMT 3
Dude, seriously, what are you smoking?
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Post by hjernespiser on May 3, 2011 19:06:33 GMT 3
I think it's supposed to be a joke.
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Post by benzin on May 4, 2011 10:56:31 GMT 3
ancalimon : Chinese names cant derived that simply from european, etc names. They differ much more from the original version.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 4, 2011 19:21:22 GMT 3
I think it's supposed to be a joke. I wish it was
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Post by merlkir on May 5, 2011 18:52:19 GMT 3
I think it's supposed to be a joke. I wish it was It really isn't. Ancalimon sees the Turks everywhere. According to him, everyone is a Turk. 12 000 BC ago the Turks ruled the world, spread civilization (like building pyramids) among other people and protected them from hordes of cannibals. He believes this stuff.
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