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Post by guray on Aug 11, 2011 1:30:39 GMT 3
Examining and understanding Modu Shanyu's army is not as easy as something else. Also, do you really think Alexander the Great's army followed him as Modu Shanyu's army followed Modu Shanyu's? I think on the steppes, Alexander's troops even light armors can't catch Modu Shanyu's army, just a disapointment for Alexander... Other type of terrains; that is, the terrains that Shanyu's army has many difficulties and disadvantages, I don't think he try to fight... Also there is one more thing, almost every qualified mounted archers are in Shanyu's army, where can Alexander find enough cavalry archers to defeat Shanyu?
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Post by merlkir on Aug 11, 2011 9:59:17 GMT 3
That's a bunch of strange statements.
1.) Not sure what you mean by following, but if you mean love of the troops for their general - boy oh boy, Alexander was maybe one of the most loved leaders ever. It's clear from all the written accounts of his life that his troops absolutely adored him most of the time (well, except when he tried to make them march to yet another super distant foreign country, but that was towards the end) He ate what they ate, he slept in a tent like they did, he fought in the first ranks with them, got hurt as many time as they did - by sword, lance, axe, even a catapult bolt. His troops followed him alright.
2.) Now we're talking about the battlefield? Has it been agreed upon where this challenge would take place? See how useless these comparisons are? If you don't set up some kind of neutral ground and odds, the "results" are meaningless. Also, believe it or not, infantry can be quite mobile. Anyway, I'll talk about cavalry in another point.
3.) Your last point is very amusing. So, which world does this take place? Shanyu somehow took ALL the mounted archers and Alexander is somehow left with none? Sorry, but why? How does this contest work, the commanders get a pick of the troops and Shanyu picked first?! As I said, Alexander used mounted archers fairly extensively and they were the elite of that time.
You seem confused about the point of this whole match up thing.
*sigh* There is this strange image of Alexander these days, that he was a sissy gay sadist who somehow got lucky and won, because his troops had better armour and longer pikes than his enemies. Which, I admit, saddens me.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 11, 2011 15:05:00 GMT 3
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Post by Subu'atai on Aug 12, 2011 15:21:45 GMT 3
^ Interesting... he baited them out, avoiding the weakness of his infantry getting shot to pieces, using his cavalry as the anvil and his infantry as the hammer (a reverse of his usual tactic)!
Pretty disciplined troops actually, a good combined-arms strategy. It's interesting how one order or manuever can easily win or lose a battle. An infantry army with a brain - Alexander! But I doubt Modu Shanyu would make such a horrid mistake.
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Post by Turanist on Dec 9, 2014 12:39:40 GMT 3
Too many positive and friendlyness about Alexander is written which gives me a question mark in my head.
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