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Post by hjernespiser on May 5, 2010 9:05:43 GMT 3
According to this... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_IranianSIL lists Sogdian, Ossetic, Yaghnobi, Scythian as Northeastern Iranic and Khotanese Saka and Saka (Scytho-Khotanese) as Southeastern Iranic. It isn't immediately clear the reasons behind the classification. But!-- we cannot trust wiki. Just about anyone, even nut cases, can write or modify a wikipedia article to suit their own perspective. (And only the Buddha knows what that might be. ) Uh, that's why I mentioned SIL. Discerning readers can still look at Wikipedia and glean good information from it without throwing the whole thing in the trash just because nut cases also write there.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 5, 2010 11:51:36 GMT 3
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Post by Alanus on May 8, 2010 19:05:34 GMT 3
I want to join something like this too, but it's simply impossible in Turkey Back to you, Ihsan Maybe someday a bunch of you guys in Turkey can form a unit. There are now 30 in the U.S., and Britain has two, one a Sarmatian-based cavalry unit. Almost every European country has one. Russia now has one (even building a fort), and several former eastern-block countries are forming up. Good luck
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 9, 2010 14:24:05 GMT 3
There is actually a traditional Turkish archery group in Istanbul named Tirendaz who are also now into Turkish cavalry reennectmants. I also saw photos of some people in Istanbul who make WWII reennectmants, but I don't know if they are a group or not. Of course, when compared with American, British and other European reennectmants, Turkey is almost nothing Bad thing I can't get into this is that the stuff are too expensive. I'm a member of Historical European Martial Arts group based in Ankara named Kuzgun Akademi, but we're not into rennectmants yet, because we're still a very young group. Hopefully, maybe, in the future
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Post by Alanus on May 9, 2010 21:17:03 GMT 3
Actually, there are no archery groups anywhere near to where I live. I'm a Roman reenactor, but have just started to teach archery to kids. They may be the future horse-archers.
Many traditional horse-archers just wear their ordinary clothes. A number of them practice at Lajos Kassai's farm in Hungary, and the world championships are at Fort Dodge.
Anyway, good luck.
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Post by siberiancoldbreeze on Apr 25, 2012 20:28:17 GMT 3
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Post by Ardavarz on Apr 26, 2012 2:09:16 GMT 3
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Post by siberiancoldbreeze on Apr 17, 2013 10:30:05 GMT 3
Thank you Ardavaz This link is just awesome..Not only Usun but there are lots of other sister links full of information.I am very greatful for that.
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Post by Horse on Feb 24, 2015 8:56:02 GMT 3
You said the Saka term for horse was ASP, interestingly the modern iranian (Farsi) word for horse is also ASP.
Further I'd like to add that I too agree with OP, the evidence strongly points to the direction that the Saka and Scythians spoke an iranic indo European language. They were not Turkic.
It is important to note that the iranian plateau is sometimes referred to as the "southern steppe" and onto which iranian people migrated too from the "northern steppe" areas north and North East of the iranian plateau.
I seem to get a sense sometimes online that most people think steppe people's are all Turkic or Mongol, or a mix of both, which just simply is not true.
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Post by Turan on Nov 9, 2015 11:32:12 GMT 3
There are professors who claim they did speak old/proto Turkic languages which were essentially similair to the Xiongnu(Huns).
Links such as names.
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Post by uralaltay on May 2, 2018 3:30:00 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 2, 2018 11:58:50 GMT 3
Thank you very much, and welcome aboard. Thanks again. I already knew about this list. Rüdiger Schmitt's article titled "Scythian Language" in the Encyclopedia Iranica also deals with the Scythian language(s) and demonstrates the problems in the recorded Scythian words: www.iranicaonline.org/articles/scythian-language
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