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Post by Druzhina on Sept 1, 2014 5:12:39 GMT 3
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matmohair1
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Post by matmohair1 on Sept 1, 2014 14:03:24 GMT 3
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 1, 2014 16:57:45 GMT 3
i don't think the wind sock as depicted on the orlat battle plaque is comparable to the typical widnsocks with an animal-head we have seen from other people. there is evidence from other related people that windsocks or similar attachments were used. korean (goguryeo or silla):   chinese northern dynasties (northern wei etc, a bit hard to make out on the pic):  those all seem roughly contemporary to the orlat battle plate if we assume the younger dating is correct, but the armor depicted looks almost identical to the korean armor. in case of the koreans and chinese, the windsock is being attached to the horse armor however. there is an earlier example dating from the graeco-bactrian kingdom where cavalry seems to have an attachment on the back of the rider: coinindia.com/galleries-eucratides1.htmlhowever this seems to be discontinued after the yuezhi conquest and establishment of the kushan empire. |
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Post by merlkir on Sept 15, 2014 11:04:46 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 15, 2014 11:46:05 GMT 3
It is probably from a Chinese movie.
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Post by snafu on Sept 26, 2014 5:33:29 GMT 3
Yeah, looks like standard Chinese drama stuff. Hard to tell who theyre supposed to be. The infantrymen in the background are wearing cone shaped hats that look more like Ming or Qing dynasty. Someone mightve just threw this up under Xiongnu without looking too deeply into it. Im generally suspicious of any images online that cant be traced to a source.
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matmohair1
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Post by matmohair1 on Sept 27, 2014 14:44:39 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 28, 2014 14:08:10 GMT 3
Nice, thanks.
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 29, 2014 0:36:50 GMT 3
i think they are interpretations of some of the stone statues such as those:   |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 29, 2014 13:22:12 GMT 3
It can also be seen on this statue (the one on the left) discovered in Afghanistan, dating from the 6th-7th centuries and depicting a Gokturk lord. Attachments:
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Post by Druzhina on Oct 2, 2014 16:30:57 GMT 3
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Post by Temüjin on Oct 3, 2014 0:46:49 GMT 3
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Post by Druzhina on Oct 4, 2014 7:37:05 GMT 3
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Post by Druzhina on Nov 3, 2014 10:09:57 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 3, 2014 11:23:27 GMT 3
It says they all are warriors from the Golden Horde. Two of them are Mongols and the rest are all Qipchaqs (Polovets).
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I hope someone would find better quality scans...
