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Post by hjernespiser on Aug 14, 2009 2:04:52 GMT 3
I think the name of these spots needs changing in order to prevent the misconception that this is an exclusively Mongoloid feature. Nomadi, Google "polynesian mongolian spot".
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Post by kenmirzz on Aug 14, 2009 12:41:36 GMT 3
Yes, I agree with Mr Sarmat. The spot appears on all the race that are grouped under the "Mongoloid" category. The polynesians also have them. But I think that people rather confused the name, "Mongolian Spot" and conveniently restrict it to the Mongols as something special. My apology, in this case, I trust the medical research regarding the spot and abide by their intepretation and findings. The spot is not unique at all. Humanity is but one family.
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Post by nomadi on Aug 14, 2009 15:26:01 GMT 3
Ok. Thanks for comments. But I see only Mongols and other Mixed with Mongols.I have Mongolian origin,My father have Mongolian origin, we were has, My mother has not mongolian origin,she is Turk, she not has.I dont see Africans not have but Mongols's invased lands's peoples have this spot.(Mixing)
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Post by nomadi on Aug 14, 2009 15:29:49 GMT 3
I want Khalkha's comments. What is them idea?
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Post by kenmirzz on Aug 15, 2009 4:52:14 GMT 3
My wife who is a Khalkha Mongol had them. The Caucassian looked Turk in Turkey might not have it but the Kazakh and Kyrghiz Turk has the spot due to their Mongoloid feature. By the way, most Chinese, Korean and Japanese have it too.
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Post by nomadi on Aug 15, 2009 16:16:53 GMT 3
I know Chineses not have,But Koreans have. If Chinese people have,I think later the Kublai Khan
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Post by sarmat on Aug 15, 2009 18:52:48 GMT 3
I know Chineses not have,But Koreans have. If Chinese people have,I think later the Kublai Khan Most of the Chinese, Vietnamese, Thais, Burmese, Indonesians etc. have this spot. Are you bothering yourself, to read what others write in this thread or not? Why are you obsessed with this idea? This spot is common in people of Mongoloid and Negroid races and isn't typical only for Mongols or other Altaic people.
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Post by nomadi on Aug 15, 2009 19:05:49 GMT 3
I know Chineses not have,But Koreans have. If Chinese people have,I think later the Kublai Khan "Most of the Chinese, Vietnamese, Thais, Burmese, Indonesians etc. have this spot." Lol. Are you sure ? ;D
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Post by hjernespiser on Aug 15, 2009 20:41:43 GMT 3
www.tokyo-med.ac.jp/genet/msp/about.htmIncidence: The prevalence of Mongolian spots varies among different ethnic groups according to the overall depth of pigmentation. Mongolian spots are common among Asian, East Indian, and African races, but rare among Caucasian and other races. Reported incidences in representative ethnic infants are as follows: Asian: 95-100%, East African: 90-95%, Native American: 85-90%, Hispanic: 50-70%, Caucasian: 1-10%
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Post by hjernespiser on Aug 15, 2009 20:44:42 GMT 3
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Post by sarmat on Aug 16, 2009 1:10:52 GMT 3
I know Chineses not have,But Koreans have. If Chinese people have,I think later the Kublai Khan "Most of the Chinese, Vietnamese, Thais, Burmese, Indonesians etc. have this spot." Lol. Are you sure ? ;D Of course, I'm sure. And anybody can access this information after doing some basic online research.
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Post by Subu'atai on Aug 16, 2009 12:12:06 GMT 3
Hey Nomadi, my daughter has the xox tolbton - "Mongolian spot". Only 3/8 Mongol too. Ne ways I don't think this spot has much meaning in globalised life anymore. You are who you are, and whatever you identify yourself as. Since I don't want anyone pinning an identity on my daughter, including myself, so I'm not planning to raise her with a Mongol identity, nor do I wish to confuse her with Russian ancestry or my wife's Chinese or Swedish ancestries.
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Post by nomadi on Aug 16, 2009 17:12:03 GMT 3
Hey Nomadi, my daughter has the xox tolbton - "Mongolian spot". Only 3/8 Mongol too. Ne ways I don't think this spot has much meaning in globalised life anymore. You are who you are, and whatever you identify yourself as. Since I don't want anyone pinning an identity on my daughter, including myself, so I'm not planning to raise her with a Mongol identity, nor do I wish to confuse her with Russian ancestry or my wife's Chinese or Swedish ancestries. Anda,Mongolian genes very powerfull. Me too 1/4 Mongol but I was have.Your daughter have Mongolian Father,your daughter have Mongolian spot
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Post by kenmirzz on Aug 17, 2009 3:56:02 GMT 3
Hello Mr Subu’atai or Soontobedaddy, how’s life? I am a Moghul and my wife is a Khalkha Mongol. We are expecting our first child soon but I want her to raise our child as a true Mongol. I admire your perseverance, keep it up man. As for Nomadi, I understand your obsession with the Mongolian spot but sometimes we have to accept facts as facts. This spot has nothing to do with being Mongolian or being mixed with Mongolian gene. The African obviously don’t have the Mongolian, same goes with Vietnamese or Cambodian. Humanity is but one family.
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Post by Subu'atai on Aug 17, 2009 10:00:32 GMT 3
Hey Kenmirzz, congratulations! I guess in your situation it's best since Mongol identity is shared between both sides of the family; in my case I don't have that luxury.
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