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Post by hjernespiser on Jan 31, 2010 3:21:37 GMT 3
My understanding is that nomads tended to view groups of people as a resource like tracts of land to settled civilizations. Where a settled civilization would consider land to have a premium, nomads would place that premium on people. So when people were conquered, nomads would divide people amongst themselves like spoils of war compared to settled people dividing land. People became attached under the administration of different clans or tribes and formed into their own tribes that would become a part of a confederation, etc.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 31, 2010 12:11:44 GMT 3
Actually nomads also divided lands along with tribes they conquered, as can be seen in the Mongol Injü system.
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Post by Asparuh on Jul 15, 2010 0:23:01 GMT 3
Hello.We need to put some more posts here.This topic has been unactive for a while. Actually my whole idea about this topic was to ecplain the similarities between the Persian and Turkish peoples.I can give many examples.Like in the Arquitecture.In Bulgaria we have houses that looke the same like houses in Iran.Also i think the system of conquering countries in Persia and Ottoman Empire was moreless the same.The country and people they conquer form part of their army and then they use their force to conquer another country.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 16, 2010 13:25:57 GMT 3
The Romans and Mongols also did the same
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Post by kenmirzz on Jul 17, 2010 4:07:17 GMT 3
I think the most apparent similarities between Persian and Turk are the celebration of Nauruz(Nowruz) festival where those who identify themselves with Turkic and Persian origin will undoubtedly celebrate it.
However, the rest of the similarities may have to do with the adoption of common religion.
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Post by Asparuh on Jul 22, 2010 2:49:29 GMT 3
Prince of Persia. I saw this incredible movie two weeks ago. I am impressed really. Do anybody has an idea in which century was the action ago ? Or it´s just a fairy tale. Persian empire had many allies at the time of its rise. Some of them in the movie looked Hunnish for me.Is this possible ? Attachments:
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Post by Subu'atai on Jul 22, 2010 14:11:22 GMT 3
It's a fairy-tale based on an old computer game.
I agree though, it was a great movie and interesting story.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 22, 2010 23:54:08 GMT 3
Yes, it's a fairy-tale based on an old computer game, but also with loose historical background. The "Persian Empire" in the movie is actually based on a mixture of Sasanids and Greater Seljuks.
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Post by Asparuh on Jul 28, 2010 22:20:16 GMT 3
Ok,I want to know in which century is this movie based ? 13-14 ? The Music is incredible. I am totally impressed with this production.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 30, 2010 10:56:36 GMT 3
Both the 3th-7th centuries and 11th century
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Post by Asparuh on Aug 6, 2010 19:32:40 GMT 3
Wait a minute i am getting confused here. What you mean by both? The Game and the Movie or what ? What is in 3-7 century and what is in 11-th century? I think the 11-th cebtury sound more reasonable for me.At least the costumes and the armours look from that epoque of time.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 7, 2010 10:21:39 GMT 3
The moviemakers mixed both the Sasanid and Seljuk periods to get that Persian Empire in the movie
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Aug 9, 2010 19:33:17 GMT 3
It's been a long tradition in depicting Iranians like that of Abbasid period Muslims in movies, which comes from the perception of the european countries essentially based on their contacts with middle-east actually started in 11th century AD. It manifestes itself with guys wearing arabic keffiyas and having loose arabic like attire all fail to represent Iranians and how they looked like even after the establishment of the arab empire.
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Post by Asparuh on Aug 10, 2010 17:07:49 GMT 3
Ok,It´s just a movie.It cannot be represented at 100 % .Same happened in Troy movie.The whole movie was sort of like made as a mixing of diferent cultures.Do you know something about AVRAT ? What does AT AVRAT PUSAT means ?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 10, 2010 22:07:06 GMT 3
"At Avrat Pusat" is a Turkish saying meaning "Horse, Woman, Weapon" which are the three always necessary and important things Turkish warriors need
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