Post by hjernespiser on Mar 13, 2009 20:32:39 GMT 3
I'm copying what was written on the English Wikipedia about the Uriankhai because most of the information was originally written by me. Some other info came from some Mongolian and wasn't sourced.
There's a quote from Otto Maenchen-Helfman about how all Tuvans are Uriankhai but not all Uriankhai are Tuvans.
So who is Uriankhai?
- Monchoogo Uriankhai (Tuvans)
- Altai-iin Uriankhai (Turkic or Mongolian Oirats?)
- Dayan Khan's Uriankhai
- Sakha Uriankhai
- Kalmyk Uriankhai
Subetai was which Uriankhai?
The unsourced claim from the Mongolian writer suggested that the Altai-iin and Dayan Khan's tumen of Uriankhai are the descendants of the same Uriankhai from which Subetai came from.
There is no clear ethnic delineation for the application of the name "Uriankhai". The name is mentioned several times in the Secret History of the Mongols. It has also historically been applied to Tuvans and Tuva proper as Tannu Uriankhai. Tuvans in Mongolia are called Monchoogo Uriankhai (cf. Tuvan Monchak). Another group of Uriankhai in Mongolia (in Bayan-Ölgii and Khovd aimags) are called Altai-iin Uriankhai. These were apparently attached to the Oirats. A third group of Mongolian Uriankhai were one of the 6 tumens of Dayan Khan in Eastern Mongolia. These last two Uriankhai groups are said to be descendants of the Uriankhan tribe from which came Jelme and his more famous cousin Subutai.
A variation of the name, Uraŋxai, was an old name for the Sakha.[1] Russian Pavel Nebolsin documented the Urankhu clan of Volga Kalmyks in the 1850s.[2] Another variant of the name, Orangkae (오랑캐), was traditionally used by the Koreans to refer indiscriminately to "barbarians" that inhabited the lands to their north.[citation needed]
There's a quote from Otto Maenchen-Helfman about how all Tuvans are Uriankhai but not all Uriankhai are Tuvans.
So who is Uriankhai?
- Monchoogo Uriankhai (Tuvans)
- Altai-iin Uriankhai (Turkic or Mongolian Oirats?)
- Dayan Khan's Uriankhai
- Sakha Uriankhai
- Kalmyk Uriankhai
Subetai was which Uriankhai?
The unsourced claim from the Mongolian writer suggested that the Altai-iin and Dayan Khan's tumen of Uriankhai are the descendants of the same Uriankhai from which Subetai came from.