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Post by draconist on Jul 26, 2010 14:38:39 GMT 3
Yes,Above the Thracians was Dacia.On the North-east were the Scythians.Actually Thracians and Dacians have a lot of things in common.Both becamed provinces of the Roman Empire in 1 A.C. Hi to all, I am Bulgarian too. First Dacians are one of many thracian tribes. Thracians are origin Balkan (and the lands of Helespont) inhabitants. Greeks were came from Northern Africa. Before greeks all Balkan peninsula was inhabited by Thracian tribes. Herodotus said: "Of all the peoples Thracians are the largest, after Indians...they were called themselves with many names - each by his state (land of inhabit.)" Strabo said: "Narrow between Chalcedon and Byzantium, now called Thracian Bosporus, a time was called Moesian Bosporus. This can be taken as evidence that Mysians are Thracians." (p. 568, 8) St. Jerome, who also lived in the 4th century, wrote in his map: “Mesia hec et Vulgaria” (Moesia i.e. Bulgaria) Jordan, who lived in the sixth century (known with his book Ghetika), says: "Inter vero Thraciam vel Macedoniam et Mysiam inferiorem modo Bulgari habitant." – Rav. Cosmographus, IV, 6 in Lower Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia only Bulgarians live. Strabo, Diodorus Sikulski and Stefan of Byzantine explained that the Scythians and Thracians are two groups of the same ethnicity. Mysians or Thaco-Ilyrians are divided in the old days of two main parts: Scythians and Cimmerians. And both groups are called Bulgarians today. As Scythians, in the old days meant mostly residents along the Danube and north of the Danube. Cimmerians between Danube river and Thracian Bosporus, its another name was the Cimmerian Bosporus.
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Post by draconist on Jul 26, 2010 14:42:06 GMT 3
Dionysus the Thracian campaign to INDIA
Few know that in addition to the god of wine and fertility Dionysus was also known as a great conqueror. With Maenads satires and it came down to India conquers the local population and build a sacred city called Nysa. Lucius Aryan says that before the arrival of Dionysos in India, the local population was nomadic ignorance cities. Dress with fur, ate bark from trees and raw meat. Thracian god gave them fire, taught them to plow and sow, to make wine, to build, they are the actors to weapons also gave them laws and religion, and certainly put himself at the head of the new pantheon. In other words, according to Aryan Dionysus was the founder of ancient Indian civilization. For distant journey of the Thracian god testify Filostrat, Euripides, Higinis, Cicero, Seneca, Apollodorus, Ovid, Nonus, Pliny, Strabo .... Once in so many sources speak of remarkable acts of Dionysus, the march he really needs to be took place. To be able to Herodotus called the largest Indian nation, it comes a story of father with this information, it did not traveled in Central Asia. However, the Thracians were known for being engaged in large-scale migrations of thousands of kilometers. Only they can make a historian of the old data on the population of remote Asia. Before the Trojan War the Greeks were not able to penetrate even the Black Sea, and let alone further afield. Constant presence of people in India paleobalkanski suspicion of toponyms and hidronimi having parallels with those from the land of Thracian-pelasgite. They exist, of course, it is a Vedic Imeus, Saryayu, Kubha, MERUL, bar, Race ... The most interesting is that they show respect, they not only names of ancient Thrace, but with the Thracian-pelasgiyskite toponyms of the Apennine peninsula. Indian Mountain bears the same name Imeus and Thracian Hemus (Stara Planina) and Italic Imeus. Imetos pelasgiyska Mountain is a most ancient name of Macedonia Hamath. HIM ancient root words corresponding to the Aryan Himalia, significant winter winter cold, snow. In translation Hemus Imeus means snow-capped, white, covered with snow. Rigg said in Veda River Kubha shows parallels with the Kuban River (whose ancient name is Hupanis) Moesian Hupanis Hiponium and Italic. Other related hidronimi are pelasgiyskite Kefenos and Kopais. Hoop roots / PMC is associated with bathing, bathe. Related are also the Slovenian verb bowl, field, etc. kupach In ancient times the river has its natural place for bathing. Vedic Sarayu meet pelasgiyskata Acheron (Azeroth) and Italic Aesaris, Auser. All they mean basin floor and meet the lake. In the Bara River are Aryans horses trough. Her name is connected with the Thracian word steam / bar meaningful River and of course Old Bulgarian and Slovenian word bar-stream. Mentioned in ancient scriptures of India shows River Race connection with Italic and Thracian Rusele Rusion. All they mean liquid dew. Holy Mount of Dionysus worshipers MERUL Mer contains particles having great significance, large and occurring in Italic toponym measurement and Thracian Maroneia and Vis-maros. Thracian teonim Pirmerul also shows respect. Should be added that particle examples (great) occurs in many names such as Old Vladimer, Bezmer Ezdimer, Merrill ... Hardly so parallels between hidronimi oronimi and may be called random. Moreover, there are other things in common between ancient India and Thrace. Lucius Arrian mentions that Dionysius gives Indian religion, putting himself at the head of the pantheon. In Aryan religion Brahma is the creator of the world. Brahma-Bromiy meets one of the epithets of the Thracian god. The name of Dionysus is also linked with that of Vedic Dius Pitar. He izesten as the father of gods and is depicted as a bull, as depicted and Dionysus-Zagreus. In ancient religions, the bull is a symbol of fertility and primary force. It should be noted that initial Dionysus was a Thracian king who was deified after his death. After him other Thracian nobles of the same name are his cult spread across three continents. In "The essence of bogovete" Cicero mentions that the Romans were told to name four deities Dionysus ... A Dionysus conquered India, another is gone to Egypt and is named Osiris there, reaching the third Iberia .... To return to the ancient Indian pantheon. Earth, the earth goddess is called by the Indians Prtivi Mata. Mata mata is old Bulgarian word parent, and meets our prtivi word earth, land. In the pantheon of Iranian-Aryans Prtivi named Vice (land). There are other gods, which are common to the Thracians and Indians. Thrace is Perkun Parzhaniya Indian, the Thracian Kersul Krshna is Indian, the Thracian Bali Ballet Indian e Balarama. We see that the claim of Aryan based on a real basis, namely that the Thracian king (deified after his death) was deeply influenced the population of Old India. In themselves Purana (ancient Indian tradition) we find confirmation of this. There are mentioned bogopodobnite brigus - chariot warriors worshiped fire and whether it people. The name of the mythical Thracian brigus reminds etnonim Brig, whose ancient lands are South-western Bulgaria and Macedonia. According Hezihiy birthplace of Dionysos is located in southern Thrace. I.e. Dionysus (the one who conquered India) was born in ancient and Brig was king of Brigitte. It is believed that the cult of the god of wine and fertility has occurred first at Brigitte (Phrygia) and later spread among their kindred tribes. Of course with an army composed only of one tribe would be impossible to conquer a huge country like India. Its inhabitants may have been primitive, but many. Certainly e Thracian ruler led by myself and other people paleobalkanski. Getae are a good candidate, called Scythians because the time has herodotovo in Thrace and gaiters gaiters (large / great spats) in Central Asia. They are mentioned in the Veda Sacchi Rigg, which Strabo explains that the Eastern Scythians, whose relatives have lived in our club. Other participants in Dionysian quest must have been giggle because Pliny says that the primitive Indian tribe is annulled visited by them. Kiko inhabit southern Thrace in the second millennium BC, their cities and Vismaros Maroneia show respect for a sacred peak MERUL Dionysus. United by the Thracian king Brig, Scythians and Kiko have managed relatively easy to conquer the Indian tribes. Dressed in bright armor Thracian chariot were fearsome sight for local people. Not to mention armed and dressed with Maenads goatskins satires. Of course the initial shock was replaced with relief when the invaders from the Balkans have begun to learn how to dravidite improve their lives. Organised zemedelstvo and cattle were unknown to the black inhabitants of India. Crafts and trade has not existed for them, but little by little, the Thracians have turned the local population in a prosperous people, gave them tools and knowledge how to izpolzvat.Deystvitelno oldest types of weapons and tools found in ancient India have prototypes in Thrace. The titles also show our connection with language. Vedic kartaka meet our hanger, tapar meet our ax (Battle Axe) sulaka meet our shield (copy), meet our glass cup, a basket of basket ..... Even the oldest names for the metals are amazing family. Vedic Cava is likened to our forge, blacksmith, metal-IAB Czech and Slovenian Covina, California - Metal. Vedic zhalika / kalayasa meets our, Czech, Serbian, Slovenian and Polish word iron / iron and drevnoindiyskoto shavaka meet mercury and wiggle our verb (because mercury is a liquid and is in motion, ie wiggle). It sidetelstvo the Thracian presence in ancient India and the parallels between the writing of Mohendzho Darro and much of the old script Gradeshnitsa, Karanovo, Vinca, Wolf Dole, etc. It's about 20 characters, which completely excludes the possibility of random similarity. Otbelyazyano will be also that the swastika is often used in India occurs much earlier in the Neolithic civilization of Varna. Our decorated with swastikas ceramics is more than a thousand years old. The word swastika is understandable in Bulgarian. SVASTI, SHAISHTA means happiness in Indo-Aryan and Iran, and KA is diminutive particle, which occurs in Sanskrit and in our words like girl, housewife, working-bee, etc. Initially, the swastika was a symbol of grace effects of the sun, which is the first deity, revered by mankind. In the event that in many historical sources speak of a campaign of Thracian god (deified king) to India, it means it is a real event. This is confirmed by hidronimi oronimi and connecting India and Thrace, and also parallels between Indian is Thracian deities. Since even the material cultures of India and Thrace show great similarity, it is time historians and archaeologists can no longer justify that there is no data and to undertake the rewriting of our history. Are we so many of the world, it is useful to finally receive recognition for it. Bulgarian name must again become a symbol of enlightenment, goodness and spiritual power. In our veins runs the blood of the great kings of the creators and distributors of culture. That nobody can take it. I realize who we are, we will begin and self kovem fate. Only so you get the future they deserve. Our ancestors were called bogoravni, many nations are stunning in their properties, let us be true to their ancestors and to show the world what we can!
Bulgari, you sons of noblemen, as such hold!
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Post by Subu'atai on Jul 27, 2010 16:41:26 GMT 3
Errr... wat?
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Post by Asparuh on Jul 28, 2010 22:30:06 GMT 3
I also heard that the Greeks are North-African settlers.Or some sort of Arabs who came and settle in Europe.I am not shure.Where are the Greeks from then at your opinion Subu´Atai ?
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Post by sarmat on Jul 29, 2010 7:03:00 GMT 3
What a nice load of bull cr*p. Another paranoidal "Balkh Aryan" propaganda attempt to s***t our forum.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 30, 2010 11:35:50 GMT 3
I will not tolerate any such bullcrap to pollute our dear forum. From now on, any such posts will be removed immediately.
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Post by Asparuh on Aug 6, 2010 19:24:02 GMT 3
Hey,Take it easy.I am not suppoting the Balk-Aryan theory.It was about the Greeks.Where the Greeks come from according to you ? If you don´t want to answer it´s ok.This topic is for Thracians.
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Post by jamyangnorbu on Aug 6, 2010 20:01:37 GMT 3
From one of the proposed Indo-European homelands.
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Post by sarmat on Aug 7, 2010 8:40:17 GMT 3
Hey,Take it easy.I am not suppoting the Balk-Aryan theory.It was about the Greeks.Where the Greeks come from according to you ? If you don´t want to answer it´s ok.This topic is for Thracians. Relax, that post wasn't related to you at all. ;D
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Post by Asparuh on Aug 10, 2010 16:52:37 GMT 3
oK.I also don´t agree when some people do inapropriate posts here.You know that i am not a scholar,student or anything.I just like History that´a all.Bye !
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Post by Asparuh on Oct 13, 2010 1:22:20 GMT 3
Alright.I have just watched the series of Spartacus - Blood and sand movie.It was very heavy and brutal movie to watch but it has revealed some misteries to me in Thracian history. The Thracians and The Getae used to have some conflicts for example. Also Spartacus was captured by the Roman empire ,because he refused to go with his people agains the Persian army of Mithridates II which was moving westwards conquering Greece. There are a lot of intepretations of Spartacus story,but this movie is really surpsising.
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Post by Asparuh on Oct 13, 2010 1:32:24 GMT 3
Also the Thracians were influenced from the Scythians in the north and from the Persian in the southeast.Thrace was several times attacked by its neibhours - Getae,Skythians,Persians,Greeks,etc. It is very interesting to me that the way of fighting of the Thracians is very similar to the spartans.I will have more research upon this matter.Another intresting fact is that the Thracians were used as mercenaries in service of the Roman empire ,because of their capabilities.
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Post by Asparuh on Oct 18, 2010 16:55:34 GMT 3
Here are some photos of Thracians. Pic.n.1 Attachments:
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Post by Asparuh on Oct 18, 2010 16:56:09 GMT 3
Pic.N2 Attachments:
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Post by Asparuh on Oct 18, 2010 16:56:46 GMT 3
Pic N.3 Attachments:
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