Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 16, 2004 22:49:16 GMT 3
(Originially posted by karakhan at September 10, 2004)
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They call themself Bashkorts but is more well known by Russians as Bashkir.
Brief history from Hunmagyar.com
Brief History
The name "Bashkort" has been known since the 9th c. The Bashkirs are descendants of Turkic tribes of Central Asian and South Siberian origin, living in the southern Urals and the surrounding steppes for over 1000 years. Their physical and linguistic characteristics suggest that they emerged as a self-concious ethnic group in the 16th c. from a mix of Tatar, Mongol, Volga Bulgarian, Oguz, Pechenegs, and Kypchak peoples. After the fall of the Tatar Khanate of Kazan in 1552, the Bashkirs came under Russia's sovereignty. Various forms of exploitation by tsarist administration led to several unsuccessful Bashkir revolts in the 17th and 18th c., the biggest one in 1773, led by Salavat Yulay.
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There is some dispute on history of Bashkorts as they is very closely related to Tatars, infact the language is virtually the same. Politically both Bashkortostan and Tatarstan has some of the most independent policies out of all the Republics in the Russian federation with Tatarstan attempting to give out their own citizenship. Bashkortostan attempt to do a land trade with Orenburg in the south, which allow Bashkortostan to have an international border with Kazakhstan. Economically the two do very well. THere is some rivalry between Bashkort and Tatars, the Tatar refer the Bashkorts as the basically "Rural Tatars", while Bashkorts think Tatars is arrogant and are really Bashkort.
Physically Bashkorts have both Finnic-Ugrian and Mongol/Turkic elements, some look more Finnic some look more Mongol..but most is inbetween. Here are some pic of modern Bashkorts..
The president of Bashkortostan
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(Originially posted by me at September 11, 2004)
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Interesting...
So what is the meaning of Bashkort? "Head/Primary Wolf" or something?
Their name was mentioned in the Sui Shu as one of the Tiele peoples of the early 7th century.
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(Originially posted by karakhan at September 16, 2004)
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As you probably know, Bash means head.. I think it means head in every Turkic language, might be called Besh in Yakut. Anyway, wolf in Bashkir and Tatar is Bure, not Kort/Kir. but they do say bashkorts is descended from a wolf.
You know how Turkic names are, it can be interpreted in many meanings.. look at Kazakh, you get the meaning of white goose, rebel, etc.
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They call themself Bashkorts but is more well known by Russians as Bashkir.
Brief history from Hunmagyar.com
Brief History
The name "Bashkort" has been known since the 9th c. The Bashkirs are descendants of Turkic tribes of Central Asian and South Siberian origin, living in the southern Urals and the surrounding steppes for over 1000 years. Their physical and linguistic characteristics suggest that they emerged as a self-concious ethnic group in the 16th c. from a mix of Tatar, Mongol, Volga Bulgarian, Oguz, Pechenegs, and Kypchak peoples. After the fall of the Tatar Khanate of Kazan in 1552, the Bashkirs came under Russia's sovereignty. Various forms of exploitation by tsarist administration led to several unsuccessful Bashkir revolts in the 17th and 18th c., the biggest one in 1773, led by Salavat Yulay.
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There is some dispute on history of Bashkorts as they is very closely related to Tatars, infact the language is virtually the same. Politically both Bashkortostan and Tatarstan has some of the most independent policies out of all the Republics in the Russian federation with Tatarstan attempting to give out their own citizenship. Bashkortostan attempt to do a land trade with Orenburg in the south, which allow Bashkortostan to have an international border with Kazakhstan. Economically the two do very well. THere is some rivalry between Bashkort and Tatars, the Tatar refer the Bashkorts as the basically "Rural Tatars", while Bashkorts think Tatars is arrogant and are really Bashkort.
Physically Bashkorts have both Finnic-Ugrian and Mongol/Turkic elements, some look more Finnic some look more Mongol..but most is inbetween. Here are some pic of modern Bashkorts..
The president of Bashkortostan
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(Originially posted by me at September 11, 2004)
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Interesting...
They call themself Bashkorts but is more well known by Russians as Bashkir.
So what is the meaning of Bashkort? "Head/Primary Wolf" or something?
The name "Bashkort" has been known since the 9th c.
Their name was mentioned in the Sui Shu as one of the Tiele peoples of the early 7th century.
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(Originially posted by karakhan at September 16, 2004)
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Interesting...
So what is the meaning of Bashkort? "Head/Primary Wolf" or something?
They call themself Bashkorts but is more well known by Russians as Bashkir.
So what is the meaning of Bashkort? "Head/Primary Wolf" or something?
As you probably know, Bash means head.. I think it means head in every Turkic language, might be called Besh in Yakut. Anyway, wolf in Bashkir and Tatar is Bure, not Kort/Kir. but they do say bashkorts is descended from a wolf.
You know how Turkic names are, it can be interpreted in many meanings.. look at Kazakh, you get the meaning of white goose, rebel, etc.
Cossacks settled along the Ural (Yaik) river and Orenburg was their captial, just because some weirdo Commies made Orenburg capital of some fancy ASSR means nothing... 